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Old 04-09-2012, 02:24 AM
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Has anyone ever plated these new style castor blocks
I bought new ones, but he plating is somewhat worn off from poor handling from the dealer ... I took my old ones off and had then plated and they seem fine and look very good, but I don't know if the new ones are different set up? ( old ones seem to be just rubber, new ones are.... ????
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The newer ones are just rubber also, albiet alot less compared to the old style ones. If you could get the old ones done i dont see any reason you can get the new ones done.
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Ed, just have them plated, rubber will hold just fine all nasty chemicals.
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The new style caster blocks have a lot less rubber than the old style caster blocks.

Looks and rubber condition aside... the reason for the change to the new style is to reduce the quantity of rubber in that suspension component. The reason being is that under braking, the rubber deflects, and the front toe changes. Furthermore, the toe change isn't the same on each side. The harder you brake, and the wider and stickier the tires, the more pronounced this will be. In short... the car is less stable under heavy braking due to the suspension movement.

The solution is to move to a caster block with less rubber... which by default limits the amount of deflection. And that's exactly what Porsche did.

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Originally Posted by Techno Duck
The newer ones are just rubber also, albiet alot less compared to the old style ones. If you could get the old ones done i dont see any reason you can get the new ones done.
Hey John
I was just wondering if someone else was dumb enough to plate them
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Ed, just have them plated, rubber will hold just fine all nasty chemicals.
Hey Olli
That's what I was wondering
I will get them plated

Originally Posted by TonyG
The new style caster blocks have a lot less rubber than the old style caster blocks.

Looks and rubber condition aside... the reason for the change to the new style is to reduce the quantity of rubber in that suspension component. The reason being is that under braking, the rubber deflects, and the front toe changes. Furthermore, the toe change isn't the same on each side. The harder you brake, and the wider and stickier the tires, the more pronounced this will be. In short... the car is less stable under heavy braking due to the suspension movement.

The solution is to move to a caster block with less rubber... which by default limits the amount of deflection. And that's exactly what Porsche did.

TonyG
Thanks Tony
Yea, the reason I got them, was if I go to bigger wheels...
I dont think I will be tracking the car anymore, but can understand why less rubber would be better
Thanks Guys
for all your feedback
Sorry it took me so long to respond ...
It's been a tough slog with all the repairs I have been doing on this wonderful black hole of a car
(Oil Pan LBS, Front Mail Seal 3 pic X member and X over) etc....
Best regards
Ed
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Ed, post up a picture of that work you've been doing!!
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Originally Posted by Tom M'Guinn
Ed, post up a picture of that work you've been doing!!
LOL
Will do
I have to toque my nuts first.

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I am going to try to do a thread on replacing the Oil Pan Gasket as I have learned a lot doing this one and would like to help others avoid pit falls I encountered.
Here are a few pictures ...
Tom was kind enough to bead blast a few of the big parts with his blasting cabinet ...
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That is one clean and BRIGHT engine. Nice work...does it ever run??
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Originally Posted by Brian Broderick
That is one clean and BRIGHT engine. Nice work...does it ever run??
LOL
Thanks
Well, it did a few months ago ... Then, the oil leaks all surfaced ( there were like 5 different leaks ) So, I decided to rip it all apart again, after only about 500 miles .. It's probably a good thing I did, as I found a few things getting loose ..... ( all was torqued but just loosened up. I am sure toasted motor mounts didn't help )
Doing the oil pan is really a major job ( which I am sure you all know )
And I did a boat load of, " while your in there stuff"
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Looking great, as always, Ed. I have to confess that I left the stickers on my new caster blocks I installed last week.....
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Originally Posted by Tedro951
Looking great, as always, Ed. I have to confess that I left the stickers on my new caster blocks I installed last week.....
LOL Thanks
So you mean the, " Made in Italy stickers ?"
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I thought I saw a tiny bit of grime on the bottom of the frame clip where the crossmember attaches... it must be the lighting...

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thats crazy, on a 951 my 911 isnt even that clean
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Originally Posted by Crazy Eddie
LOL Thanks
So you mean the, " Made in Italy stickers ?"
Indeed! I think that was a first for me on this thing. The adhesive they used could be used to seal a hatch glass.


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