MAACO These Days?
03-29-2012, 02:06 AM
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When I was tuning 280Z cars back in the mid 80's we used to use a similar company but we knew the owner. He would let us come over and circle every blemish after sanding with a grease pencil, and have them fill and sand again. He would make sure we got his best painter.
The paint was ****, and these jobs cost us about as much as a very good detail job. The car would look good for about two years, then they would have to be "detailed" again. From 10 feet away they looked decent.
Proper paint for our cars like Dupont Chromabase including clear coat costs $1000 to $1500 depending on the color, and coats of clear.
The paint was ****, and these jobs cost us about as much as a very good detail job. The car would look good for about two years, then they would have to be "detailed" again. From 10 feet away they looked decent.
Proper paint for our cars like Dupont Chromabase including clear coat costs $1000 to $1500 depending on the color, and coats of clear.
03-29-2012, 02:26 AM
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Drifting
Collin, not to be a dick, but you are a MIT grad, and I'm proud of you. Our cars deserve more than $30 worth of ****ty paint, and $80 in labor. Maaco deserves all their profit margins. I get their market, but it shouldn't be our cars.
03-29-2012, 10:21 AM
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hahaha thanks for the words of encouragement George. Don't worry -- I have no plans to get a Maaco paint job any time soon! As a matter of fact I was just admiring the 951's paint the other day.
Hell -- people keep running their cars into her in parking lots, so almost 100% of it is brand new paint! Add to that the recent parts I got painted (mirrors and bumper), and maybe she's pretty close to 100%. Last part I need to paint is the header panel -- it's got quite a few rock chips.......
03-30-2012, 03:59 PM
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Well mine is going to be more of. A "beast-RS" car so not looking for show quality. Also had considered rattle can approach as well.
I totally forgot about local auto body students. I will make some calls.
I totally forgot about local auto body students. I will make some calls.
03-30-2012, 04:08 PM
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my car was painted at maaco a couple of years before i bought it. they guy spent $3k on their "premium" paint service.
what a crock of ****! the paint hasn't bonded to the primer, so it flakes off really easily, and definitely has some orange peel look to it on the fenders.
YMMV.
what a crock of ****! the paint hasn't bonded to the primer, so it flakes off really easily, and definitely has some orange peel look to it on the fenders.
YMMV.
03-30-2012, 05:19 PM
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I am willing to bet that a motivated student can do a better job than someone who works at Maaco who probably hates their job.
If your good at painting and body work I doubt you would be working there.
Just my opinion. Whatever people decide my thoughts are not meant to judge anyone and it's not my car or money.
I also have never liked Maaco so I am 100% biased against them.
I have been painting on and off for about 4 years now for work. A small part of what I do at work. I'm hoping one day to paint a project vehicle but not start with my Porsche. It's Mil-spec aircraft polyurethane paint I spray and I use DeVillbiss Transtech paint guns.........I didn't pay for them but they are $600.00 guns to buy in Calgary. Probably much cheaper in the US. I know there is better guns out there but not needed for what I am spraying. I've learned a thing or 2 and I am also the most picky person when it comes to my own work and paint jobs on my cars.
Good luck with which ever route you go
Jason
If your good at painting and body work I doubt you would be working there.
Just my opinion. Whatever people decide my thoughts are not meant to judge anyone and it's not my car or money.
I also have never liked Maaco so I am 100% biased against them.
I have been painting on and off for about 4 years now for work. A small part of what I do at work. I'm hoping one day to paint a project vehicle but not start with my Porsche. It's Mil-spec aircraft polyurethane paint I spray and I use DeVillbiss Transtech paint guns.........I didn't pay for them but they are $600.00 guns to buy in Calgary. Probably much cheaper in the US. I know there is better guns out there but not needed for what I am spraying. I've learned a thing or 2 and I am also the most picky person when it comes to my own work and paint jobs on my cars.
Good luck with which ever route you go
Jason
03-31-2012, 10:01 AM
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J & J Auto Body & Painting (17 miles north of Daytona Speedway).
410 North Railroad Street,
Bunnell, FL 386 437-0041
they do high-quality work. they did a walkaround on my car.... i explained what i was looking for. then they gave me the price. all i could say was, 'wow; i'll never get my car painted in the northeast..." price differencial; Northeast: $7,500.... J&J, Bunnell: $3,200. if you're in the area, take your car to these guys.
410 North Railroad Street,
Bunnell, FL 386 437-0041
they do high-quality work. they did a walkaround on my car.... i explained what i was looking for. then they gave me the price. all i could say was, 'wow; i'll never get my car painted in the northeast..." price differencial; Northeast: $7,500.... J&J, Bunnell: $3,200. if you're in the area, take your car to these guys.
04-01-2012, 12:19 AM
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all i can say is that it depends on the shop. My dad ran a MAACO back in the 80's and they always did good work. A friend of mine worked at one some time ago and that shop said he was taking too much time sanding and to just "scuff quickly" over the surface before paint. He didnt stay there long. When i paint a car for myself just the paint is usually between 600-1000 just for paint and primer, tape and supplies. If i shoot the car with NASON which is Duponts cheaper line its still about 3/4 of that. MAACO i believe still uses acrylic enamel for their cheap jobs which is crap paint that is not UV resistant and not flexible on plastic panels.
04-02-2012, 05:00 PM
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And everything I have ever been told about paint is 90% is all in the material and prep work. Which if done by the book is where your price (labor) shoots up fast.
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I have seen their paint work and it is usually pretty crappy, but for a beater and for $500, it is pretty hard to beat.
Now, since they are mostly independently owned, quality differs from shop to shop.(although I would say 90-95% of them do sub at work, hence their reputation) Ironically, the Maaco on Frankford Ave in Philadelphia is probably one of the best ones. They do a lot of hotrods and do custom painted schemes and stripes. Who would'be figured to go to that Maaco for that kind of work.
Just my 2cents...
Now, since they are mostly independently owned, quality differs from shop to shop.(although I would say 90-95% of them do sub at work, hence their reputation) Ironically, the Maaco on Frankford Ave in Philadelphia is probably one of the best ones. They do a lot of hotrods and do custom painted schemes and stripes. Who would'be figured to go to that Maaco for that kind of work.
Just my 2cents...
04-03-2012, 12:21 PM
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I had my 951 done at Maaco, and it came out excellent...and im extremely picky when it comes to paint.
The Maaco where I had mine done is in North Bergen, NJ, but this isnt your typical Maaco. The owner is a friend of mine, and he does amazing work. Some of his work has been in magazines...he airbrushes custom bikes, does custom paintjobs for hotrods ( all types of schemes ), he's done a lot of high end drag cars ( with graphics ).
I prepared the car with another bodyman here in my shop, and used only high quality prep materials and primer. I sent the car to maaco on a flatbed, with all the body panels and seals removed ( doors, fenders, sunroof, bumpers...etc ).
I then gave him the paint code I wanted, told him I wanted no orange peel, and that I wanted the paint to look as close to glass as possible.
I paid $1500 for paint alone, and put the car back together myself with all new weather stripping. Pain in the *** job. So if you can find a Maaco with an owner like that, I wouldnt think twice about painting my car there.
Sure, if you want to spend $400 on a maaco job, its going to look like crap.
If you dont like to do any of the dirty work like removing panels and seals, dont expect them to.
All in all im very satisfied
The Maaco where I had mine done is in North Bergen, NJ, but this isnt your typical Maaco. The owner is a friend of mine, and he does amazing work. Some of his work has been in magazines...he airbrushes custom bikes, does custom paintjobs for hotrods ( all types of schemes ), he's done a lot of high end drag cars ( with graphics ).
I prepared the car with another bodyman here in my shop, and used only high quality prep materials and primer. I sent the car to maaco on a flatbed, with all the body panels and seals removed ( doors, fenders, sunroof, bumpers...etc ).
I then gave him the paint code I wanted, told him I wanted no orange peel, and that I wanted the paint to look as close to glass as possible.
I paid $1500 for paint alone, and put the car back together myself with all new weather stripping. Pain in the *** job. So if you can find a Maaco with an owner like that, I wouldnt think twice about painting my car there.
Sure, if you want to spend $400 on a maaco job, its going to look like crap.
If you dont like to do any of the dirty work like removing panels and seals, dont expect them to.
All in all im very satisfied
04-03-2012, 12:28 PM
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I had my 951 done at Maaco, and it came out excellent...and im extremely picky when it comes to paint.
The Maaco where I had mine done is in North Bergen, NJ, but this isnt your typical Maaco. The owner is a friend of mine, and he does amazing work. Some of his work has been in magazines...he airbrushes custom bikes, does custom paintjobs for hotrods ( all types of schemes ), he's done a lot of high end drag cars ( with graphics ).
I prepared the car with another bodyman here in my shop, and used only high quality prep materials and primer. I sent the car to maaco on a flatbed, with all the body panels and seals removed ( doors, fenders, sunroof, bumpers...etc ).
I then gave him the paint code I wanted, told him I wanted no orange peel, and that I wanted the paint to look as close to glass as possible.
I paid $1500 for paint alone, and put the car back together myself with all new weather stripping. Pain in the *** job. So if you can find a Maaco with an owner like that, I wouldnt think twice about painting my car there.
Sure, if you want to spend $400 on a maaco job, its going to look like crap.
If you dont like to do any of the dirty work like removing panels and seals, dont expect them to.
All in all im very satisfied
The Maaco where I had mine done is in North Bergen, NJ, but this isnt your typical Maaco. The owner is a friend of mine, and he does amazing work. Some of his work has been in magazines...he airbrushes custom bikes, does custom paintjobs for hotrods ( all types of schemes ), he's done a lot of high end drag cars ( with graphics ).
I prepared the car with another bodyman here in my shop, and used only high quality prep materials and primer. I sent the car to maaco on a flatbed, with all the body panels and seals removed ( doors, fenders, sunroof, bumpers...etc ).
I then gave him the paint code I wanted, told him I wanted no orange peel, and that I wanted the paint to look as close to glass as possible.
I paid $1500 for paint alone, and put the car back together myself with all new weather stripping. Pain in the *** job. So if you can find a Maaco with an owner like that, I wouldnt think twice about painting my car there.
Sure, if you want to spend $400 on a maaco job, its going to look like crap.
If you dont like to do any of the dirty work like removing panels and seals, dont expect them to.
All in all im very satisfied
04-03-2012, 12:56 PM
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This is the only pic I have after putting some of the car back together. Everything in the nose is fiberglass, it was hell to get the GT racing header panel aligned with the hood. I didnt use guards red either.