Track Pads
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gearing up for the DE season and was wondering what you track guy's recommend for track pads? the calipers are stock 87 Turbo calipers with steel braided lines... Car weighs 2,840 pounds.
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Been using Hawk Blues for DE's. Pretty good pad for the price, but I know a lot of people don't like them. I have stepped up to HTC-60's for racing. Come to think of it, might have a set of nearly new blues I took off of my 968. If interested, let me know and I'll see.
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I'm a pretty big fan of the Performance Friction PF97 compound. Ran them on my racebikes for years - and now run them when I DE my car (stock calipers, braided lines, SRF fluid.) No fading, held out all day (me + my wife driving) with no issues. I see you're in Naperville - so for a possible meaningful comparison for you, I got down into the 1:22's at Blackhawk on 'em and had zero issues.
The only thing that SUCKS about them is the brake dust. Get it wet and the stuff is harder than concrete! I swap them out for OE pads when not at the track.
The only thing that SUCKS about them is the brake dust. Get it wet and the stuff is harder than concrete! I swap them out for OE pads when not at the track.
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I'd advise considering the PFC 01's f and 97's rear...(or perhaps the 06's front). The bite is amazing, they're not too expensive and they don't need to be bedded in.
+1 on the dust. Clean them off during the day at the track makes life much easier...but a worthwhile compromise for the stopping power.
+1 on the dust. Clean them off during the day at the track makes life much easier...but a worthwhile compromise for the stopping power.
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The PFC are really good on stock calipers but they will have a good amount of rotor wear and dust if you use them hard. The dust turns to a concrete like material if it get wet so it is best to blow them off as soon as you get done.
No disrespect Patrick, but you should always bed in performance pads. I have seen several cars go right off track because they didn't spend the time to properly set and bed the pads. It doesn't take that long and is simple to do. I do 5-6 brakes stop & goes on a service road and then allow time for the rotors to cool off. Then I go out at the back of the pack and do the rest of the bedding on the warmup lap.
http://www.performancefrictionbrakes....php?pageId=18
Tim. I was thinking about using Hawk DTC-70 this year, hear good things about them. What is you input?
No disrespect Patrick, but you should always bed in performance pads. I have seen several cars go right off track because they didn't spend the time to properly set and bed the pads. It doesn't take that long and is simple to do. I do 5-6 brakes stop & goes on a service road and then allow time for the rotors to cool off. Then I go out at the back of the pack and do the rest of the bedding on the warmup lap.
http://www.performancefrictionbrakes....php?pageId=18
Tim. I was thinking about using Hawk DTC-70 this year, hear good things about them. What is you input?
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If it's not exclusively a track car, pads like the DTC70 and PFC01 might be more aggressive than you want for rotor wear and cold street performance.
I have used Hawk DTC-70s front and rear for two race seasons. Best pad I have used so far. Lots of bite but very controllable. I replace my rotors each season.
I previously used PFC01s which were also a good pad as far as performance, but for some reason the pad blocks were developing fine cracks and parts of the pad would start chunking off as soon as they were more than about 20% worn. Never had this problem with the DTC70s.
Your brake setup, (bias and rotor,caliper size and type etc) as well as tire choice will also affect what works best on your car as well.
I have used Hawk DTC-70s front and rear for two race seasons. Best pad I have used so far. Lots of bite but very controllable. I replace my rotors each season.
I previously used PFC01s which were also a good pad as far as performance, but for some reason the pad blocks were developing fine cracks and parts of the pad would start chunking off as soon as they were more than about 20% worn. Never had this problem with the DTC70s.
Your brake setup, (bias and rotor,caliper size and type etc) as well as tire choice will also affect what works best on your car as well.
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I ended up talking to a buddy of mine here in Chicago. Ed Nork. I have used DTC 70's before on my Audi S4 (which is gone) and I liked them... But I did go ahead and bought front and rear HT 10's. That was Ed's recommendation. I am usually at Autobahn, so they should work well there. If King finds those blues I will probably buy them also for one of the weekends at Road America...
Dubai, where is the full size image of the front of your car? I looked for it and couldn't find it.
Dubai, where is the full size image of the front of your car? I looked for it and couldn't find it.
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The PFC are really good on stock calipers but they will have a good amount of rotor wear and dust if you use them hard. The dust turns to a concrete like material if it get wet so it is best to blow them off as soon as you get done.
No disrespect Patrick, but you should always bed in performance pads. I have seen several cars go right off track because they didn't spend the time to properly set and bed the pads. It doesn't take that long and is simple to do. I do 5-6 brakes stop & goes on a service road and then allow time for the rotors to cool off. Then I go out at the back of the pack and do the rest of the bedding on the warmup lap.
http://www.performancefrictionbrakes....php?pageId=18
Tim. I was thinking about using Hawk DTC-70 this year, hear good things about them. What is you input?
No disrespect Patrick, but you should always bed in performance pads. I have seen several cars go right off track because they didn't spend the time to properly set and bed the pads. It doesn't take that long and is simple to do. I do 5-6 brakes stop & goes on a service road and then allow time for the rotors to cool off. Then I go out at the back of the pack and do the rest of the bedding on the warmup lap.
http://www.performancefrictionbrakes....php?pageId=18
Tim. I was thinking about using Hawk DTC-70 this year, hear good things about them. What is you input?
If it's not exclusively a track car, pads like the DTC70 and PFC01 might be more aggressive than you want for rotor wear and cold street performance.
I have used Hawk DTC-70s front and rear for two race seasons. Best pad I have used so far. Lots of bite but very controllable. I replace my rotors each season.
I previously used PFC01s which were also a good pad as far as performance, but for some reason the pad blocks were developing fine cracks and parts of the pad would start chunking off as soon as they were more than about 20% worn. Never had this problem with the DTC70s.
Your brake setup, (bias and rotor,caliper size and type etc) as well as tire choice will also affect what works best on your car as well.
I have used Hawk DTC-70s front and rear for two race seasons. Best pad I have used so far. Lots of bite but very controllable. I replace my rotors each season.
I previously used PFC01s which were also a good pad as far as performance, but for some reason the pad blocks were developing fine cracks and parts of the pad would start chunking off as soon as they were more than about 20% worn. Never had this problem with the DTC70s.
Your brake setup, (bias and rotor,caliper size and type etc) as well as tire choice will also affect what works best on your car as well.
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I run PFC01 front / PFC97 rear. Fantastic pads. I have also run Ferodo DS2500 (good street/track compromise but can overheat on track) and Ferodo DS3000 (great bite, but high rotor wear). I buy mine at http://www.raceshopper.com