Rogue or vitesse maf?
02-26-2012, 04:16 PM
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I sorta look at it this way... sometimes I buy Snap-On and sometimes I buy Craftsman. Both companies sell quality products and support them forever (for the most part anyway). My decision is based on the features I'm looking for and how often I plan to use and rely on th tool. The bottom line is that both options are good choices, it just depends on how money you want to spend on a particular aspect of the hobby. None of us are making a living driving these cars, so is there really a need to spend Snap-On money on something that makes the car more "fun"? That decision is up to you. I chose to save some money when possible on the fun stuff if I have multiple good options, some of that money saved goes towards pretty parts, and I dont spare any expense when buying safety components like brakes, suspension, helmets, harnesses, etc, at least as much as is appropriate for the minimal amount of track time I put in.
The bottom line to the OP is that you have two great choices, and I'm sure you will make the decision that works best for your immediate needs as well as our future plans for the car.
The bottom line to the OP is that you have two great choices, and I'm sure you will make the decision that works best for your immediate needs as well as our future plans for the car.
02-26-2012, 04:17 PM
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And just to continue with the apples-to-apples... it looks like Rogue is coming out with a piggyback device of his own, too:
http://roguetuning.com/rogue_tuner©_piggy-back
So it seems both vendors also offer PB devices now (or will soon?)
http://roguetuning.com/rogue_tuner©_piggy-back
So it seems both vendors also offer PB devices now (or will soon?)
02-26-2012, 04:22 PM
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And just to continue with the apples-to-apples... it looks like Rogue is coming out with a piggyback device of his own, too:
http://roguetuning.com/rogue_tuner©_piggy-back
So it seems both vendors also offer PB devices now (or will soon?)
http://roguetuning.com/rogue_tuner©_piggy-back
So it seems both vendors also offer PB devices now (or will soon?)
02-26-2012, 04:28 PM
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02-26-2012, 05:00 PM
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Something established. 2.5L 27/6, TO4E 50trim, GT series, mild cams, etc.
Timing curves are significantly different in a 3.0L and 2.8 (for max power).
On my 3.0L with a big cam, big turbo, worked head, about every bolt on you can think of, and 115 degree ambient temps I went to Vitesse based on his experience with 3.0L motors, race environment applications, and my past dealings with him. I couldn't find a better choice in my opinion.
Timing curves are significantly different in a 3.0L and 2.8 (for max power).
On my 3.0L with a big cam, big turbo, worked head, about every bolt on you can think of, and 115 degree ambient temps I went to Vitesse based on his experience with 3.0L motors, race environment applications, and my past dealings with him. I couldn't find a better choice in my opinion.
02-26-2012, 05:56 PM
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Nice to see you post up jeremy! I know like myself you've bought from many vendors over the years and have a pretty well seasoned opinion. I hear ya on the money. I was about 70 grand or so over the course of 5 years of ownership. To be fair a lot of that was spent on mods and combo change ups.
02-27-2012, 12:31 AM
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Lol - I don't look at this thread for a day, and it blows-up!
I suppose it is kind of like asking what is better, Chevy or Ford...
It does not matter what objective points are brought up, there will be two sides disagreeing for eternity. And those that have ran both systems are likely not going to be vocal about it, not that I blame them, as they will get the most aggressive back-lashing.
Those that mentioned these cars being a labor of love - that is exactly the fact for myself! I've owned my 951 for ~7years, and even picked up a 944NA last year. Of all the cars I've owned, this has been my favorite, and I have no plans of moving away from them (though I might be looking for a 968 coupe this year). Since owning this thing, I've tried to make it better and give back to the community.
Ha, first time I've actually considered quoting someone for my signature 
In the end, I do believe competition to be a good thing, even in a marketplace as small as this one. Because of competition, people have options to argue about, prices to scrutinize, and continued innovation.
I suppose it is kind of like asking what is better, Chevy or Ford...
It does not matter what objective points are brought up, there will be two sides disagreeing for eternity. And those that have ran both systems are likely not going to be vocal about it, not that I blame them, as they will get the most aggressive back-lashing.
Those that mentioned these cars being a labor of love - that is exactly the fact for myself! I've owned my 951 for ~7years, and even picked up a 944NA last year. Of all the cars I've owned, this has been my favorite, and I have no plans of moving away from them (though I might be looking for a 968 coupe this year). Since owning this thing, I've tried to make it better and give back to the community.
In the end, I do believe competition to be a good thing, even in a marketplace as small as this one. Because of competition, people have options to argue about, prices to scrutinize, and continued innovation.
02-27-2012, 02:08 AM
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Lol - I don't look at this thread for a day, and it blows-up!
I suppose it is kind of like asking what is better, Chevy or Ford...
It does not matter what objective points are brought up, there will be two sides disagreeing for eternity. And those that have ran both systems are likely not going to be vocal about it, not that I blame them, as they will get the most aggressive back-lashing.
Those that mentioned these cars being a labor of love - that is exactly the fact for myself! I've owned my 951 for ~7years, and even picked up a 944NA last year. Of all the cars I've owned, this has been my favorite, and I have no plans of moving away from them (though I might be looking for a 968 coupe this year). Since owning this thing, I've tried to make it better and give back to the community.
Ha, first time I've actually considered quoting someone for my signature
In the end, I do believe competition to be a good thing, even in a marketplace as small as this one. Because of competition, people have options to argue about, prices to scrutinize, and continued innovation.
I suppose it is kind of like asking what is better, Chevy or Ford...
It does not matter what objective points are brought up, there will be two sides disagreeing for eternity. And those that have ran both systems are likely not going to be vocal about it, not that I blame them, as they will get the most aggressive back-lashing.
Those that mentioned these cars being a labor of love - that is exactly the fact for myself! I've owned my 951 for ~7years, and even picked up a 944NA last year. Of all the cars I've owned, this has been my favorite, and I have no plans of moving away from them (though I might be looking for a 968 coupe this year). Since owning this thing, I've tried to make it better and give back to the community.
Ha, first time I've actually considered quoting someone for my signature
In the end, I do believe competition to be a good thing, even in a marketplace as small as this one. Because of competition, people have options to argue about, prices to scrutinize, and continued innovation.
02-27-2012, 11:55 AM
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Lol - I don't look at this thread for a day, and it blows-up!
I suppose it is kind of like asking what is better, Chevy or Ford...
It does not matter what objective points are brought up, there will be two sides disagreeing for eternity. And those that have ran both systems are likely not going to be vocal about it, not that I blame them, as they will get the most aggressive back-lashing.
Those that mentioned these cars being a labor of love - that is exactly the fact for myself! I've owned my 951 for ~7years, and even picked up a 944NA last year. Of all the cars I've owned, this has been my favorite, and I have no plans of moving away from them (though I might be looking for a 968 coupe this year). Since owning this thing, I've tried to make it better and give back to the community.
Ha, first time I've actually considered quoting someone for my signature
In the end, I do believe competition to be a good thing, even in a marketplace as small as this one. Because of competition, people have options to argue about, prices to scrutinize, and continued innovation.
I suppose it is kind of like asking what is better, Chevy or Ford...
It does not matter what objective points are brought up, there will be two sides disagreeing for eternity. And those that have ran both systems are likely not going to be vocal about it, not that I blame them, as they will get the most aggressive back-lashing.
Those that mentioned these cars being a labor of love - that is exactly the fact for myself! I've owned my 951 for ~7years, and even picked up a 944NA last year. Of all the cars I've owned, this has been my favorite, and I have no plans of moving away from them (though I might be looking for a 968 coupe this year). Since owning this thing, I've tried to make it better and give back to the community.
Ha, first time I've actually considered quoting someone for my signature
In the end, I do believe competition to be a good thing, even in a marketplace as small as this one. Because of competition, people have options to argue about, prices to scrutinize, and continued innovation.
02-27-2012, 12:07 PM
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02-27-2012, 12:22 PM
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Chevrolet-Cracked heads everlasting valve leakage engine trouble
Well i all can say 65 1/2-70 mustangs win for USA and rest goes to Aus ie Capri