Rick

I have a recently freshened spare 951S engine that one of my neighbors wants to buy...I don't know what value to place on it.

In total, it's a stock 44K mile engine from an '88 944 Turbo S that was freshened over the summer by Steinels in Twinsburg, OH. All new gaskets, new rings, bearings, baffle, thermostat, new belts, reconditioned head, etc... Since the refresh, it's been driven less than 400 miles. It will not have headers, turbo or alternator on it as those are on my car currently.

What the right price for this enigine?

If he buys it...good...if not, I also want an idea of what I should sell it for.

Thanks,

Rick

ChrisJ951

Where was this motor 7 months ago??

I'd say $2500 minimum.

fwb42

FWIW, Steinel's is one great shop. They don't do thngs half a**d. They have worked on both my and my son-in-laws cars,mine stock and his built to 300+ with now problems.. GLWS.
Fred

Darwantae951

FYI marketing it as an S engine over a Non-S engine is pointless. The engines are identical. The refresh is a nice selling point tho. Good luck!

fwb42

Woops! I mis- typed, should have said NO problems instead of now problems.

Oddjob

Eric Steinel is one of a handful of builders that is known and well respected nationally for his knowledge of 951s. As part of Fred Baker's race team, he worked w/ Porsche Engineers on the early 951 prototypes that Porsche brought to the US to race in the Playboy Escort series as early as 1983. And I recall he was sent to Weissach for training as part of this effort. Few others have his background and experience w/ 944 Turbos.

If you can verify the low mileage block (44k) and have the receipt for the work that Steinel did, that makes the motor significantly more valuable compared to high mileage motors from parted cars and those rebuilt by DITY's or unknown shops.

reno808

I love when ppl put its a "s" like it would make a difference.

Oddjob

When selling something, you advertize it for what it is. If its an M44/52 stamped motor out of an 88S or 89, then that is what it is. I do not see where any claims were made that it is mechanically different or better than a non-S long block.

SeaCay

To many, it does make a difference.

Rick

I must be missing something...I don't think I made any claims about it being different let alone better in any way...just stated what car it came out of.

Now...have I told you that it came out of a red car and at one time was hooked up to a Fabspeed exhaust? We all know those two things have a significant performance impact!

azbanks

3" downpipe or stock?

Rick

Just stock...the engine has never run with anything above factory boost levels & equipment. I may be wrong but it's been my opinion that the larger downpipes only really matter with elevated boost levels.

Tom M'Guinn

Hard to say the value, but $2500 might be a bit high if it doesn't come with turbo, engine management, etc. Knowing that it was originally an S is relevant to the price in my book. It means you have the updated OPRV, updated oil thermostat housing, updated balance shaft bearings, updated timing belt covers, updated timing belt tensioner, updated cam seal, etc., etc. It's possible to have all those updates in a non-S motor, of course, but helpful to know it is an S.