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Old 10-19-2011, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott H
675hp @ 26psi... I wonder if that is the qualifying level of boost? Wouldn't it be hard to keep an 8V alive for very long with that much boost and that many revs. Was this car only intended for short sprint races and not endurance events?

And that 16 cylinder 917 is ridiculous, it'd be like driving a 550 Spyder with 900hp. Just imagined if they turbo'd that monster. You'd have no need for a seat belt, your *** will be biting the seat hard even in a straight line.
Don't quote me but I thought they made a turbo 917. They were known for going airborne?
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1200-1500 bhp 917/30 - the Mark Donahue/Roger Penske Can-Am car.

My recollection is that the 944GTRs were run in both the Trans-Am series and in IMSA. Trans-Am would have been sprint races, up to a couple hours - the IMSA series of course included the 24hrs of Daytona and 12 hrs of Sebring. Im sure the 26 psi/675hp figure is a max/qualifying setup. Would have been dialed back for endurance races.

Found some pics - the electrodyne car(s) ran in IMSA '88-'90, and a pair of olivetti/bruce jenner cars ran in the '87 trans am series.
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Originally Posted by Mike Lindsey
Wrong about us as usual Reno.

Some we do, some we don't. Customer makes the final decision based on
pro's and con's. Once they decide, we give them what they want.

And there is a ' in doesn't.
That is called an apostrophe. They don't go in the colloquial phrase "pros and cons" as these aren't elisions - but rather refer to a decision multi-factor decision-making process weighing multiple points pro or con (from the latin -contra, against) a decision.

If you're going to throw stones make sure you're not actually still inside in your glass house.

Besides, all you did was basically agree with Reno - you aren't against the removal of balance shafts enough to advise your customers against the practice. Let's move on.
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Originally Posted by bad_monkey
That is called an apostrophe. They don't go in the colloquial phrase "pros and cons" as these aren't elisions - but rather refer to a decision multi-factor decision-making process weighing multiple points pro or con (from the latin -contra, against) a decision.

If you're going to throw stones make sure you're not actually still inside in your glass house.

Besides, all you did was basically agree with Reno - you aren't against the removal of balance shafts enough to advise your customers against the practice. Let's move on.
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Originally Posted by Mike Lindsey
And there is a ' in doesn't.
I believe the correct form should be “And there is an ' in doesn't”….since the punctuation mark referenced is an Apostrophe it should be prefaced with ‘an’ instead of ‘a’….unless, of course, you are Canadian – they have a special grammatical exemption for the use of ‘a’ – I believe its listed in their constitution somewhere.

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The reason it's "an" instead of "a" is not because the article precedes an Apostrophe or a punctuation mark, it's because the term "apostrophe" begins with a vowel.
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Originally Posted by Chris White
Apostrophe it should be prefaced with ‘an’ instead of ‘a’….unless, of course, you are Canadian – they have a special grammatical exemption for the use of ‘a’ – I believe its listed in their constitution somewhere.
A interesting hijack, perhaps best suited to a other thread in the off topic section eh? Let's have some more pictures of an particular 944 GTR!
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Originally Posted by Mike Lindsey
If it's good enough for my spell checker, it's good enough for me.
I hope this mentality doesn't spread elsewhere in your business.

I wouldn't have posted that if I were Dave or Mike Lindsey.
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Originally Posted by Oddjob
1200-1500 bhp 917/30 - the Mark Donahue/Roger Penske Can-Am car.

My recollection is that the 944GTRs were run in both the Trans-Am series and in IMSA. Trans-Am would have been sprint races, up to a couple hours - the IMSA series of course included the 24hrs of Daytona and 12 hrs of Sebring. Im sure the 26 psi/675hp figure is a max/qualifying setup. Would have been dialed back for endurance races.

Found some pics - the electrodyne car(s) ran in IMSA '88-'90, and a pair of olivetti/bruce jenner cars ran in the '87 trans am series.
So they actually turboed the 16 cyl? I thought they turboed the smaller 12 cylinder only...

And you know, I've seen those IMSA photos before and I knew the car had a distinct shape, I just couldn't remember from where. Were those the cars that got banned for going too fast after a few years or was that another Uber 944?
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Scott, you are correct - there was no turbo'd 16 cylinder. I just made a quick comment to the other reply "but I thought they made a turbo 917" w/o reading the previous quoted message referencing the 16 cyl motor. My bad.

The GTR only had one race win in the '87 Trans Am series, and I dont think they were very successful as an IMSA GTO car either. Offhand, Im not familiar w/ any 944s getting banned from a race series for being too fast, if you think of what it was let me know.
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Originally Posted by Oddjob
Scott, you are correct - there was no turbo'd 16 cylinder. I just made a quick comment to the other reply "but I thought they made a turbo 917" w/o reading the previous quoted message referencing the 16 cyl motor. My bad.

The GTR only had one race win in the '87 Trans Am series, and I dont think they were very successful as an IMSA GTO car either. Offhand, Im not familiar w/ any 944s getting banned from a race series for being too fast, if you think of what it was let me know.
Maybe the Norwood "Doom" car?
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That's what I'm thinking, the Doom car.
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Originally Posted by ritzblitz
I hope this mentality doesn't spread elsewhere in your business.

I wouldn't have posted that if I were Dave or Mike Lindsey.
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Originally Posted by ritzblitz
I hope this mentality doesn't spread elsewhere in your business.

I wouldn't have posted that if I were Dave or Mike Lindsey.
I'm not picking my parts builder/supplier based upon his mastery of the English language.
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Great Photos. I took these photos of another tube chassis 944 (GTR?) at the 2010 PCA 48 hours of Sebring event. I think the owner said he had installed a 968 motor as the Turbo engine was too unreliable. Enjoy!! Mike
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