who has the best short shift kit?
#46
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I have xschop's at the tranny and this one at the shifter http://www.ebay.com/itm/944-951-924S...#ht_500wt_1028
Love the way my car shifts now!
Love the way my car shifts now!
#47
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#49
I did just that and posted the mod with the weld-in pin dimensions. I also posted how to shorten the front factory **** as well while you're at it. It can be done with a hack-saw and dremel tool as well. It doesn't shorten the throw much, just gives more console/head unit clearance.
http://944hybrids.forumotion.com/t70...exclusive#7137
http://944hybrids.forumotion.com/t70...exclusive#7137
Doing what you did would not solve the problem I am talking about. Both the nub on the shift lever wear (like the picture on that site) but also the hole in the shift rod that the nub on the lever is inserted into wears. When I bought my first 944 I replaced the shift lever with a brand new one then shortly after replacing I removed it and it the nub was already worn because the circular hole in the shift rod was not round anymore. So putting a new nub on there or new shift lever is a waste of time an money because over a very short period of time (less than 3000 miles in my case) the nub will start to show wear again. Unless in your case you used a very strong type of metal which will only just wear the hole in the shift rod even more. Feel meh?
So my question is still, can a threaded rod and nut with some lock tight be used to tightly secure the shift lever to the rod or does the shift lever nub need to be able to rotate in the rod? Hence Porsche using a circlip in the first place??? This question is obviously posed to anyone but xschop you seem to know your **** so does what I am saying make sense to you?
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I have xschop's at the tranny and this one at the shifter http://www.ebay.com/itm/944-951-924S...#ht_500wt_1028
Love the way my car shifts now!
Love the way my car shifts now!
#51
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No, it shifted fine till my transmission went last Sunday I'm sure that shifters were not at fault but instead a 23 year old transmission that had never been rebuilt and had 7 hard years or racing on it. Will install spare S2 box this weekend and will keep both shifters.
#52
I have xschop's at the tranny and this one at the shifter http://www.ebay.com/itm/944-951-924S...#ht_500wt_1028
Love the way my car shifts now!
Love the way my car shifts now!
#53
So my question is still, can a threaded rod and nut with some lock tight be used to tightly secure the shift lever to the rod or does the shift lever nub need to be able to rotate in the rod? Hence Porsche using a circlip in the first place??? This question is obviously posed to anyone but xschop you seem to know your **** so does what I am saying make sense to you?
I do see a permanent fix for the long-rod barrel deterioration. You could cut it off and machine a needle bearing cup and weld it to the long-rod.....That would be the smoothest of them all.
#54
Hey Sir, It makes perfect sense. However, the shift lever "nub" needs to be able to rotate inside the long-rod barrel. If not, then the forward/aft motion would bind. (reason for the factory C-clip)
I do see a permanent fix for the long-rod barrel deterioration. You could cut it off and machine a needle bearing cup and weld it to the long-rod.....That would be the smoothest of them all.
I do see a permanent fix for the long-rod barrel deterioration. You could cut it off and machine a needle bearing cup and weld it to the long-rod.....That would be the smoothest of them all.
#55
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#56
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Ahhhh ****. That's not what I meant. I just became a member of that forum to see the pictures and I meant doing exactly what you did only using a threaded rod with a nut on the other side of the shift rod.
Doing what you did would not solve the problem I am talking about. Both the nub on the shift lever wear (like the picture on that site) but also the hole in the shift rod that the nub on the lever is inserted into wears. When I bought my first 944 I replaced the shift lever with a brand new one then shortly after replacing I removed it and it the nub was already worn because the circular hole in the shift rod was not round anymore. So putting a new nub on there or new shift lever is a waste of time an money because over a very short period of time (less than 3000 miles in my case) the nub will start to show wear again. Unless in your case you used a very strong type of metal which will only just wear the hole in the shift rod even more. Feel meh?
So my question is still, can a threaded rod and nut with some lock tight be used to tightly secure the shift lever to the rod or does the shift lever nub need to be able to rotate in the rod? Hence Porsche using a circlip in the first place??? This question is obviously posed to anyone but xschop you seem to know your **** so does what I am saying make sense to you?
Doing what you did would not solve the problem I am talking about. Both the nub on the shift lever wear (like the picture on that site) but also the hole in the shift rod that the nub on the lever is inserted into wears. When I bought my first 944 I replaced the shift lever with a brand new one then shortly after replacing I removed it and it the nub was already worn because the circular hole in the shift rod was not round anymore. So putting a new nub on there or new shift lever is a waste of time an money because over a very short period of time (less than 3000 miles in my case) the nub will start to show wear again. Unless in your case you used a very strong type of metal which will only just wear the hole in the shift rod even more. Feel meh?
So my question is still, can a threaded rod and nut with some lock tight be used to tightly secure the shift lever to the rod or does the shift lever nub need to be able to rotate in the rod? Hence Porsche using a circlip in the first place??? This question is obviously posed to anyone but xschop you seem to know your **** so does what I am saying make sense to you?
#57
I drilled out the hole on the end of the shift rod because it was worn as you describe. Found a nylon bushing at Home Depot that fit the shift lever shaft perfectly, drilled out the end of the shift rod to accept the bushing, added a thin layer of grease and it's sweet! Second season on the track with this set up and it's still tight. I picked up a few extra bushings just in case. They were about .65 each. Whole process to about an hour and cost .65 cents! Just ordered the tranny linkage from xschop. Can't wait to get that on there.
#59
Got xschop's short shift installed today. Now I have a completely tight shifter setup. Shifts like a dream.
About a year ago, I replaced the shift lever and drilled out and bushed the front of the shift rod with this procedure: http://www.dietersmotorsports.com/tech/tech-july-03.htm
Getting the slop out of the front of the shift linkage made a big improvement, but I could then feel the slop at the back of the linkage. Wasn't sure how to go about and fix it. I stumbled across another thread about xschop's kit, and bought his short shift setup as a hopeful fix to the slop at the trans end of the linkage. End result is a super tight and smooth gear change engagement. I like the short throw, but really like it now with no slop. Feels like the shift lever is directly connected to the transmission now.
If you are thinking about a short shift, get xschop's setup at the trans end and also make sure to address the shift lever end as well. When you are done, it will feel like a new car. Amazing...
About a year ago, I replaced the shift lever and drilled out and bushed the front of the shift rod with this procedure: http://www.dietersmotorsports.com/tech/tech-july-03.htm
Getting the slop out of the front of the shift linkage made a big improvement, but I could then feel the slop at the back of the linkage. Wasn't sure how to go about and fix it. I stumbled across another thread about xschop's kit, and bought his short shift setup as a hopeful fix to the slop at the trans end of the linkage. End result is a super tight and smooth gear change engagement. I like the short throw, but really like it now with no slop. Feels like the shift lever is directly connected to the transmission now.
If you are thinking about a short shift, get xschop's setup at the trans end and also make sure to address the shift lever end as well. When you are done, it will feel like a new car. Amazing...