Fill me in on this 944 Turbo
#1
Fill me in on this 944 Turbo
Greetings 944 group,
Could you fill me in on this car with your thoughts? All are welcome. From the car Fax it started here in sp mo. but spent time in Hawaii.
WP0AA0951GN156206 Vin
http://www.elitemercedes.com/used/Po...0fb37ce44e.htm
thanks rjr0928
Could you fill me in on this car with your thoughts? All are welcome. From the car Fax it started here in sp mo. but spent time in Hawaii.
WP0AA0951GN156206 Vin
http://www.elitemercedes.com/used/Po...0fb37ce44e.htm
thanks rjr0928
#3
I don't know if I could ever buy a 944 from anyone other than an enthusiast... These are the kind of cars where it's pretty important to meet the guy who's been taking care of it and talk to him for a while... There's such a wide spread in what you can be getting yourself into with these cars, and a dealer isn't going to be able to give you the information you need to gauge that.
just my $.02
just my $.02
#4
I don't know if I could ever buy a 944 from anyone other than an enthusiast... These are the kind of cars where it's pretty important to meet the guy who's been taking care of it and talk to him for a while... There's such a wide spread in what you can be getting yourself into with these cars, and a dealer isn't going to be able to give you the information you need to gauge that.
just my $.02
just my $.02
#5
+1 What these guy said. Does it have any service history? The big one is the timing belt water pump if you don't know, you'd need to plan on getting it done or bad things will happen! $$$$$$
A Turbo S could be had for less or simpler still an 89 Turbo (All the 89's are S spec cars) if you don't know what the "S" is then you need to do more research!
We'll be happy to welcome you into the fold when you find the right car!
A Turbo S could be had for less or simpler still an 89 Turbo (All the 89's are S spec cars) if you don't know what the "S" is then you need to do more research!
We'll be happy to welcome you into the fold when you find the right car!
#6
Looks like a nice car, though for me personally I would be wary of a sub taking up half my trunk room.
I have no problem with purchasing a car without service history, if I can get the work done and own it for at or below market value. I think the above estimates of a low mileage 951 are high 4 figures--assuming it runs well, shows no obvious sign of accidents, etc. Back out what you'd likely have to put in for real or peace-of-mind maintenance, and that's the value. Well, that's the semi-sensible approach. The only really sensible 951 is the one in your neighbors driveway...
This car looks to be at a dealer group, and looks to have been for sale for slightly over a month now. I suspect it'll be there for a while longer, and the sales manager will start getting pressure to turn it. They'll likely mark it down and if they are smart reach out to everyone whose shown interest in the car. If they can't sell it after a given period of time, they'll wholesale it (sell to a broker or run through auction) and wash their hands of the deal. If I were you and were interested, I'd show interest at a certain price, appear funded (a legit client), be cordial, be unemotional (ready to walk away), and press for maintenance history. Finally, don't think of your offer, if you make one, in relation to the asking price--the dealer will evaluate the offer in terms of what they own the car for. And you have no idea what they own it for. They could have gotten this in on trade and given $4k for it, or conversely made a sweetheart deal on the trade to close a new car deal and legitimately have $10k into the car. Or it could have come out of auction. The only thing you know is that they evaluate the deal based on what they have into the car, not what they initially asked for it...
Or I'd just look for a later car at a lower price with a realistic asking price...
Tim
I have no problem with purchasing a car without service history, if I can get the work done and own it for at or below market value. I think the above estimates of a low mileage 951 are high 4 figures--assuming it runs well, shows no obvious sign of accidents, etc. Back out what you'd likely have to put in for real or peace-of-mind maintenance, and that's the value. Well, that's the semi-sensible approach. The only really sensible 951 is the one in your neighbors driveway...
This car looks to be at a dealer group, and looks to have been for sale for slightly over a month now. I suspect it'll be there for a while longer, and the sales manager will start getting pressure to turn it. They'll likely mark it down and if they are smart reach out to everyone whose shown interest in the car. If they can't sell it after a given period of time, they'll wholesale it (sell to a broker or run through auction) and wash their hands of the deal. If I were you and were interested, I'd show interest at a certain price, appear funded (a legit client), be cordial, be unemotional (ready to walk away), and press for maintenance history. Finally, don't think of your offer, if you make one, in relation to the asking price--the dealer will evaluate the offer in terms of what they own the car for. And you have no idea what they own it for. They could have gotten this in on trade and given $4k for it, or conversely made a sweetheart deal on the trade to close a new car deal and legitimately have $10k into the car. Or it could have come out of auction. The only thing you know is that they evaluate the deal based on what they have into the car, not what they initially asked for it...
Or I'd just look for a later car at a lower price with a realistic asking price...
Tim
#7
Removing the subwoofer would have been wise.
That looks like original paint. Whoever detailed this car did a fantastic job (at least from the pictures). If the service records match the exterior and interior, this car would probably bring about $10k on ebay (if the hatch were converted to original condition). Values of strong examples have been rising significantly lately.
That said, most people who buy nice examples at high prices probably do not frequent rennlist enough to see threads like this to change their opinion on price.
That looks like original paint. Whoever detailed this car did a fantastic job (at least from the pictures). If the service records match the exterior and interior, this car would probably bring about $10k on ebay (if the hatch were converted to original condition). Values of strong examples have been rising significantly lately.
That said, most people who buy nice examples at high prices probably do not frequent rennlist enough to see threads like this to change their opinion on price.
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#8
Price does seem high. The problem is that with no service history you don't know the real miles too. You rarely find a good deal at a dealership. What you must also consider is that even though the miles might be low, all the other parts degrade with time. Hoses, rubber, seal and everything else dries, rots or corrodes just by sitting around.
10000$ max and that is if you can see it on site and evaluate the condition of the rest of the car. Don't be fooled by the 500$ out-sourced detail job.
10000$ max and that is if you can see it on site and evaluate the condition of the rest of the car. Don't be fooled by the 500$ out-sourced detail job.
#9
I might be one of those people who would pay a high-ish price for a nice example, simply because there are fewer all the time and you feel better spending the thousands more post-purchase that you unavoidably do.
I'm not sure this is one of those. It looks great in the pictures, but the mileage says collector's garage queen and the subwoofer says otherwise. What else does not add up?
A dealer car with no records... You have to really want this particular car and have the money set aside to address issues properly as they come up.
I'm not sure this is one of those. It looks great in the pictures, but the mileage says collector's garage queen and the subwoofer says otherwise. What else does not add up?
A dealer car with no records... You have to really want this particular car and have the money set aside to address issues properly as they come up.
#10
check where the amp for the sub is mounted. The previous owner of my 944 mounted his amp in the trunk and proceeded to drill past the sheet metal and into the gas tank. Pulling the tank is not a fun day...trust me on that one.
#11
Thank you all for your in put, great information. With two 928's adding a 944 Turbo has been on my list so when I came across this one I knew who to ask. (you all)
I may take the time this weekend and take the car out, if I do I'll post pic or concerns i may have. once again thank you for your time.
I may take the time this weekend and take the car out, if I do I'll post pic or concerns i may have. once again thank you for your time.
#13
#14
Yep... not closed all the way. You will definitely need to check into that. Maybe they can be adjusted, and maybe there has been some body work done on the front of the car and the body shop didn't finish the job. I would take a VERY close look at everything in the nose area.