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Old 05-26-2003, 07:30 AM
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what is teh max camber for teh front and rear on a 951?
I think about 2.30 degrees right?

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Old 05-26-2003, 11:14 AM
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I got about -2.5 on my 89, which still wasn't enough, so I added the camber plates. Hoosiers want -3. Then I replaced the sway bars and -3 was too much, as the car wasn't rolling over as much. The insides were 15-20 degrees hotter than the outsides.. Now I think -2.5 will be OK. Obviousy, I'm searching for the correct camber by taking tire temps.
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what kind of camber plates?
what about the rear? I lowered teh car as much it gets in the rear and it seems to me like to much negative camber in the rear:
Any idea how much camber the car gets if I lower it from full high to full low in the rear?

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Konstantin,

I can get -4.2 in front with Racer's Edge camber plates.

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Old 05-26-2003, 11:48 PM
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I'm using paragon's camber plates, $295.. (I got mine before they added the caster adjustment) I'm not sure about the rears..
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You can get about -3.0 to -3.5 degrees with the stock adjustment on the strut (depending upon ride-height). Combined with a camber-caster plate, you can get an additional 4 degrees to -7.5 degrees if you wanted:

<img src="http://www.gururacing.net/ImagesMisc/CamberPlates.jpg" alt=" - " />

Our plates also do not lower or raise your car. So if you have stock suspension, no need to get coilovers just to compensate for height changes with caster-camber plates.
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ok about 3.30 is enough for me. I already have camber plates but I still didn't instaled them.

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Are all you camber guys adjusting this yourself, or are you having a shop do it. I know you have your own shop danno, but i was wondering about everyone else. I have been think about playing with the camber on my car. Its an 86 951 with stock suspension. This is my third year of drivers Ed and I just had the front tires swapped over to the other front wheels because the outside tread is wearing on my track tires which are street tires. Is this something i can do myself?
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I currently have -3° front and -3° rear... perfect for track, but really too much for road use (anyway, i don't use my car on road, except to go to the track) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
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"Are all you camber guys adjusting this yourself, or are you having a shop do it...
Is this something i can do myself? "


You only need an alignment shop the first time around. I had the shop paint a white mark on the strut when the adjustment bolt is set to street alignment around -1 degrees. Then they set it to -3 degrees and made a second mark. So when I go to the track, I drive jack up the car take off the tire and change my alignment for track use. After I'm done, I restore the street setting as I'm packing to go home.

This was a time-consuming task, thus the camber plates; allows you to change your alignment in 5-minutes per side.
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Does changing the camber also change toe or anything else?
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I too had problems with wear on the outside corners until I had a shop do a proper alignment - I also had the car corner-weighted. I was able to get 3.2 front and 1.9 rear on my 86 951 with a stock set-up. The wear was much improved across the tread width and tire temps varied about 6-8 degrees from outside to inside after coming off the track.

However, I will be installing the adjustable camber plates this summer for the reasons mentioned above.
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Ray Scruggs "Home Alignment for Porsche 911"..no phone #, only an address..
20-A Scenic Ave., San Rafael, Calif., 94101..costs about $10.

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