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Old 01-24-2003, 06:46 PM
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My technician mentioned that we could raise the compression ratio of my engine from 8.0:1 to 8.5:1. How is this done, and what are the ramifications?

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Old 01-24-2003, 08:57 PM
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Shave off 0.050" from the cylinder head. Milledge and Powerhaus does it all the time. Only a caveat is that you want to make sure your valve-springs and lifters be in good shape.
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According to Smokemup.com's calculator of <a href="http://www.smokemup.com/auto_math/eff_cr.php" target="_blank">effective compression ratio</a> an 8.0:1 motor with 18psi boost has an eff CR of 17.8:1, if you bump static compression to 8.5:1 you will need to limit boost to 16psi to have the same eff CR. That will aid your off-boost performance somewhat but I've been told that less CR and more boost will make more HP than more CR and less boost. Say that real fast.
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"That will aid your off-boost performance somewhat but I've been told that less CR and more boost will make more HP than more CR and less boost. Say that real fast. "

Brfvfrhhvfsb.... too fast, my tongue's all tied up..

There's a difference between power potential and power achieved and the resultant torque curve. Unless you're using the absolute maximum boost a certain compression-ratio will support, you'd be better off raising the compression to get better off-boost torque in the low-end and avoid Dr.Jekyll/Mr.Hyde all on/off powerband.

For example the power-potential on 92-oct. street-gas:

8.0:1 @ 22psi boost = 380-390rwhp
8.5:1 @ 18psi boost = 350-360rwhp
9.0:1 @ 15psi boost = 320-330rwhp
9.5:1 @ 12psi boost = 300-310rwhp
10.0:1 @ 8psi boost = 280-290rwhp

So if your goal is a measly 300rwhp, you might as well go with 9.5:1 compression @ 12psi to have the best partial-throttle/mid-range instant response with a wide & broad torque curve (and faster car too).

It would be a waste to use 8.0:1 and 17psi because you'll have a lot more turbo lag. If you're going to put up with that, might as well run 22psi and get a whole lot more power.
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Thanks guys. Indeed, my tech indicated the slightly higher compression ratio would result in less turbo lag, albeit at a lower boost. That is our objective.
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We have ran compresion ratios as high as 9 to 1 on the 951. Personally, I did not like it, nor would I do it on my personal car. We were way limited on the amount of boost we could run on pump gas (like 4-6 psi less boost then 8 to 1 compression). There was not a big difference on spool-up or low end torque either. I did have total control of timing and fuel with an Electromotive unit but we could not avoid the pinging above 12 psi. 12 psi with 9 to 1 compression is not going to make as much power as 18 psi with 8 to 1 compression. At least this is what my experience dictates. Take care.



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