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Old 08-22-2002 | 01:31 AM
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It would seem all the fervor of the GURU product launch has died down. Anyone else beside me itching to hear what's going on with those guys? I'm hoping for updates etc; anyone else besides the principals and their 180,000mi device have some of the GURU goodies installed? The market is clamoring for info.
Old 08-22-2002 | 03:18 AM
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Things are quiet because the GURU elves are working feverishly behind the scenes to crank out the production run of kits that have been ordered. The next batch of MAP-sensor boxes are being manufactured in NZ as we speak... Not to mention we're answering close to 50 emails a day! ;

... the initial buyers will be reporting next week...

We're also planning a NorCal PizzaRun/Dyno Day on Sept. 7 to get before and after comparisons on a bone-stock 951. Our goal is to break the 300rwhp barrier on a 951 with STOCK turbo (may require electronic boost-controller & aftermarket wastegate though...).
Old 08-22-2002 | 06:24 AM
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<img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> 300rwhp with stock turbo!
Btw, I would be really nice to see some pictures of the kit installed in a car.
Old 08-22-2002 | 08:59 AM
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iam with Duke on this, would like to see some pictures also !

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Old 08-22-2002 | 09:40 AM
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I'd like to see the info and pictures of the Stage II MAP (As that's what I'm waiting for! )
Old 08-22-2002 | 06:22 PM
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Ok, here's some photos. Good timing since I just finished the installation-manual and am working on a procedure for the website.

First, you have to remove the stock computers. That's Travis (SuperJet1) removing the computer boxes from the carrier (note the installation tool is NOT included in the kit.):

Then you hook up the AFM-Link box to the computers (crimp on 7 wires):

The finished product looks like this:

Notice the purple wire going to the Lindsey O2-sensor/injector duty-cycle display.

In the engine-compartment, remove ALL of the intake-plumbing from in front of the turbo and install the J-pipe with K&N filter:


Note that this is our prototype Stage-1.5 J-pipe built for us by SFR. It uses a 3" K&N with 3" inlet/2" outlet and will not be for sale with our kit. While good for a stock turbo, it's not nearly big enough for aftermarket turbos.

That's why we've been discouraging people who want to order a Stage-2 kit for their car with stock turbos. There won't be any flow differences between this J-pipe and the stock one (both using same 3" K&N filter).

However, for those with aftermarket turbos, our Stage-2 kit will include a much larger 4" J-pipe with 4" K&N like this MAF-4 kit:


It will be a full 4" inlet J-pipe, using the largest K&N filter possible to fit behind the headlights. It also won't have all the step-down necks and adapters like the MAF kit, but a smoother conical transition to a 3" outlet like the prototype above. Then a final Purocil adapter matches the 3" outlet to any turbo you have.

We're also including a shield/partial-box to isolate the K&N filter from hot engine-bay heat. Hint... ssshhh... we have a real cold-air intake for the 951 in the works... heh, heh.... <img src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" border="0" alt="[bigbye]" />
Old 08-22-2002 | 07:34 PM
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Wow 300hp with the stock turbo !!

What can you do with my baby
( 2.8 ltr, TO4E-60 ) ?

<img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" /> <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" />
Old 08-22-2002 | 09:40 PM
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what about people who plan to add a bigger turbo at the same time or later? Stage 2 makes more sense, or will it just not attach up to the stock turbo at all?
thanks!
Old 08-22-2002 | 09:53 PM
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I want to see pictures of Danno. . .

Hey Guru's

Any chance either of you, Dan or Travis, will be at German Autofest in Ventura in 3 weeks? Or do us So. Cal people need to go to the dyno/pizza run to see this thing in action?
Old 08-22-2002 | 11:13 PM
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The anticipation of this freakin' kit (300 rwhp!) is almost too much to bare. I look very forward to getting my fresh motor/turbo back in my car and all, but daydreaming about installing this kit has got me jumping up and down. I cant wait to get mine, but it will be a while. Until then i'll continue teasing myself by reading these 'updates' and, soon, posts from people who have put it in their own cars. Just Cant wait!!
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Old 08-23-2002 | 01:32 AM
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We have that unit on a customers supercharged S2. Danno and Travis are outstanding in support, and the car is tuned now. The owner will pick it up when he returns from a business trip abroad.

I really believe this to be the next wave in great upgrades for the cars we love. Any Car, NA, 16 Valve, Turbo, you name it.

We Ran 6 PSI boost on the Supercharged S2 and hit 180 at the wheels.

Thanks Danno and Travis for bringing this to a reality.

Take Care.
Old 08-23-2002 | 01:34 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by John Anderson:
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We Ran 6 PSI boost on the Supercharged S2 and hit 180 at the wheels.

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Uhh typo? I think you mean 280 maybe?
Old 08-23-2002 | 09:22 AM
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Wow...300rwhp certainly is a lofty goal using a stock turbo. But that's what goals are for!! I suppose you're talking about 20psi+ boost? What were those cars maxing out at during Farzaan's dyno day? They were mostly stock except for chips/more boost. About 265rwhp at 16-17psi (K26/8)? Do you think inlet restrictions/non-optimized af ratios were losing them that many ponies?

Just one question...when it comes time to install this device, do we need to use such a "small" screwdriver to remove the computers? I'm just not sure if I have one that size in my tool box.
Old 08-23-2002 | 03:09 PM
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no how about at 18 pounds of boost!!! <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
Old 08-23-2002 | 03:51 PM
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Show me the dyno plot of that...

My modified 951, with a/f ratios dialled in at 12.5:1, HR Stg2 T04E-50 turbo (0.6 A/R compressor housing w/ 3" inlet) only makes slightly over that at 15psi. How are you making the same power with a stock turbo, at the same boost levels, given that my a/f ratios are bang on?

Don't get me wrong, I'm very interested in your product, and may consider switching to your set-up down the road.


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