TurboTime

Uh-oh...
New June Motor Trend has the $30K 2003 Mitsu Lancer Evolution with 271 Hp and 273 Tq, 0-60 @ 4.59 receiving rave reviews, like "For $30,000, you can't go wrong. I'm blown away."

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BoostGuy951

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shortyboy

lets invest that much into our cars and lets see whose better,hehe.

that and the new 2004 subaru wrx sti (300hp)

sybelix

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by shortyboy:
<strong>lets invest that much into our cars and lets see whose better,hehe.

that and the new 2004 subaru wrx sti (300hp)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">hehe.. <img border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" title="" src="graemlins/bigok.gif" /> I'm in.

And to think of it, what would 12 - 16 year old subaru / Mitsu look like..and feel like..
oh well, no need to ask..

streckfu's

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by shortyboy:
<strong>lets invest that much into our cars and lets see whose better,hehe.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">The only problem with that is our cars (951s) were $30-40k cars back in the 80s. So to be fair, put $30k of mods into both and see what happens.

Now wait to see how well the Lacer and STi hold up for 16 years. The Porsche wins the endurance test hands down.

Dave E

30-40 k cars?!? mine had a sticker of 46,393!!

Russ Murphy

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">The only problem with that is our cars (951s) were $30-40k cars back in the 80s. So to be fair, put $30k of mods into both and see what happens. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">As Dave said, more like $40-50k, not to mention what the $ equivalency is for '88 to '03. Our cars are more like a current $66k car. There's no getting around the fact that cars keep getting better (both performance-wise and value-wise).

EZRider

Impressive performance, hopefully this will force other manufacturers of poser-pseudo sports cars to "get real". On the other hand it's ugly with very cheap appearance <img border="0" alt="[oops]" title="" src="graemlins/oops.gif" /> . For the money my choice would be WRX STi <img border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" title="" src="graemlins/bigok.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by TurboTime:
<strong>Uh-oh...
New June Motor Trend has the $30K 2003 Mitsu Lancer Evolution with 271 Hp and 273 Tq, 0-60 @ 4.59 receiving rave reviews, like "For $30,000, </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">

RPG951S

I just hope it's 'on-track' performance is better than the 2002 WRX, which was, to be polite; lame-o. Wayyy to heavy, and softly sprung. AWD doesn't do diddly-poop on a dry track, except suck-up power in the drivetrain

clubracer6

It's just a shame this rockets are AWD. There really is nothing like our cars being built today.

streckfu's

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Dave E:
<strong>30-40 k cars?!? mine had a sticker of 46,393!!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">In 86, I think, they were high 30s and by 89 were high 40s. If that means wouls cost $60k today, that would slide the bang for the buck closer to the STi and Lancer Evo. They would be the better performing cars off the showroom floor but I maintain that the Porsche have staying power. They would last 16-20 years and be worth more at the end of that timeframe.

Just my .02

Jake951

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Russ Murphy:
<strong> There's no getting around the fact that cars keep getting better (both performance-wise and value-wise).</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Very true. We do have to remember that back in the late 80's, the world of performance cars was very different than today. The 951 was one of the highest performing cars of its time and it had no Japanese competition to speak of.

To recall what it was like in the '80's, here's a direct quote from the June '88 issue of Automobile magazine on its review of the Turbo S:

"...on 90 percent of this country's twisty roads--and for 99 percent of its drivers--this is the fastest car from point A to point B on the market today."

I also have a very interesting article from an '88 issue of the British 'Performance Car' magazine comparing the Turbo S to the Ferrari 328. Here's a quote:

"It [the Turbo S] represents the crushing victory of technology over engineering convention and customer prejudice: demolishing almost all opposition within the vast sweep of its performance, it proves that four cylinders can do everything that five, six, eight--even 12--can achieve."

If I get around to it, I'll scan the full article and post it.

streckfu's

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Jake951:
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If I get around to it, I'll scan the full article and post it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Please do!!!

blu951

Both the Mitsu and the Scubie are wonderful cars but they lack "Substance" and every P-car has that built in.

LP

Thats pretty damn quick but IMHO they are just plain fugley no soul <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> . Plus you are still driving a Mitsu <img border="0" alt="[nono]" title="" src="graemlins/nono.gif" /> . BTW I sold Mitsu's for a while a few years ago. They were cheaply made.
I'll stick with my 951 LP <img border="0" alt="[bigbye]" title="" src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" />