ehall

Honestly, your best bet is either to get Chris or Dave to do the work...afterall, you DID waste 800 bucks on a freaking shift ****, or you should transplant a 951 engine into your 968, and add HP mods.
If money is no object, or even if it is, send it to Chris or Dave and sign the check. What they tell you is needed, is needed. This method will not only save you money, but more importantly it will save you unfathomable aggravation.
Any ******* can build one of these. It takes a pro to build one that will last.

ehall

I bow to your cannibal expertise!

odurandina

wow. thanks both of you.


are there any successful 3.0s turbos that have been built from variocam blocks without doing much more than changing to the stout rods,

and new rod bearings on the existing crank ??...


or are we talking about turning the cranks, tearing everything down, installing 951 pistons, and everything else, just to get started ?

lart951

lart951

He don't like you

ehall

says the man who can't even grasp basic punctuation!

odurandina

renny is better than reality tv





no way you're under 9,000 total posts.


on that $35 k engine, what caused the failure ?

gt37vgt

oh I guess that means i can't build an engine either .. guess I better just go sulk in the corner and ponder how difficult everything is ...

lart951

Sh&t, you are trying to dig a corpse, I could end up banned.

odurandina

the current engine is in pretty good shape, @ 115 k, so, dunnno.



maybe i should just keep driving this boring bucket of bolts for the next 115 k miles if it's in the cards.



the freshly paved road might be the road best taken.

ehall

Not really. Has it been done...yes. BUT, I can't imagine why one would go to the trouble nor expense unless one wanted to make siugnificant power gains.
To do that is relatively expensive, and requires an experienced "artisan" if you will.
Can a regualar guy do it? Sure, but I wouldn't bet on it's longevity.

The mechanicals are actually far less difficult than the tuning. There are a pretty large number of potential tuning solutions, but there are DAMNED FEW tuning professionals, for our cars.
Even at moderate boost levels, you still need the software to match the hardware, and someone to program that software.

As I said, I don't get why anyone would waste the effort and money to STILL go slow. I base all I've said on the concept that anything worth doing and paying for is worth doing well, and properly. I have too think that you wouldn't have asked this question if you didn't want to go FAST!
Frankly, 15psi on a 3.0, 8 valve engine, properly tuned and built, is WAY more than the cv axles can handle, if used hard often.
You can make 450 hp on a 3.0 8 valve.
You can make more on the 16v, buit not in an area of the torque curve where you'll really get to enjoy it, unless you're a sociopathic street driver.

To do it correctly and professionally, you're looking at around 15k, IF your guy can do some of the build. You have to include dyno time/$, tuner's time/$, parts, machine work, intercooler, exhaust...WBO2, boost controller....this could be a long list.

So there ya go.
Can ya do it. Yep.
If you haven't done the kind of work that gt37 has, or 95ONE. or some of the other wrenches on this board and thread, you're better off going to someone else.
They talk to people as if everyone has their experience level. That can be intimidating and yet it makes other things seem more simple than they are.
This is a case of the latter.
I'd bet a Ben Franklin that either of those guys, and probably lart, could build out their own 3.0 turbo motor, and get atleast a reasonable tune on it.
I could build one, but would need a ton of tuning help.

The thing is that being wrong is VERY EXPENSIVE!

So there's that.
I think you should first establish a hard and fast goal for the uses and performance that you want for your car. Then write it down.
Do all of the homework, as if you were going to build it yourself.
When you have done all of that...about a month's worth of work, you'll know what you want, what you need, what you can afford and how fast you need to move.

THEN make a final plan and stick too it.

Hopefully this gives you some perspective. Many of us have gone down this road. There is always more and faster, but for what purpose and at what cost? At some point some folks...Hell MANY...add crap and do stuff just to say they have it. They never take it to a track, where they can actually use it.

My current car will always be a road car. I want more power and brakes, but beyond that, I don't need many go fast bling parts. That's my vision for my car. I plan accordingly.

PPlan yours similarly, and you'll be happy with it.

ehall

There is a bit of debate on that question, but suffice it too say that this is probably not a great subject to rehash. Look up guy's name and read up. It wasn't pretty. Any other statements could cause a rukkus and I don't have the energy for that.

ehall

Well you ARE the most banned! Dopn't you have a rep to maintain?

ehall

lol nice!

Tedro951

When I read this thread I get a "CVRIV" feeling....