Valentine 1 owners, where did you mount concealed display?
04-28-2010, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Me on RDnet
I don't bring this point up a lot...but I have to unequivocally call bull**** here.
False alarms come in two different flavors: Identified falses and unidentified falses. Identified falses are constant radar sources that broadcast all the time in the same place and you know what and where they are. You continue driving as usual and do not slow down or get worried when you encounter an identified false. Unidentified falses are the radar contacts that you have never seen in that location before, including locations you have never driven through before, where you cannot confirm the source as a false. Unidentified falses interrupt our driving and add stress.
Truelock, if it works right and can be trusted to operate safely without locking out real threats, solves the issue of identified falses. However, every radar detector ever built with a mute button solves the issue of identified falses. If you know what and where the false is, you just click the mute button on reflex and continue driving without interruption. Yes, Truelock saves you the trouble of touching a button. Big StrekStrekStrekStreking deal.
However, because Truelock cannot lock out a false that you cannot confirm as a false already, it doesn't do a thing for unidentified falses. When you're driving down that unfamiliar road, it's STILL going to alert to that false radar source you can't see and you're STILL going to slow down and start searching for the threat. Truelock can't help you because Truelock doesn't know anything that you don't already know.
In fact, the V1's directional antennas and arrows are the only things that can even BEGIN to solve the problem of unidentified falses. They are not a perfect solution, nor do they work 100% of the time, nor are they 100% accurate. But by giving you good information about the relative location of a radar source, they can, in combination with excellent ramp-up like the V1 has, help the driver identify a radar alert as being an unlikely or improbable threat. I would still like an even better system, but at least for now, I have more information about unknown radar contacts than any other detector on the market will give me.
False alarms come in two different flavors: Identified falses and unidentified falses. Identified falses are constant radar sources that broadcast all the time in the same place and you know what and where they are. You continue driving as usual and do not slow down or get worried when you encounter an identified false. Unidentified falses are the radar contacts that you have never seen in that location before, including locations you have never driven through before, where you cannot confirm the source as a false. Unidentified falses interrupt our driving and add stress.
Truelock, if it works right and can be trusted to operate safely without locking out real threats, solves the issue of identified falses. However, every radar detector ever built with a mute button solves the issue of identified falses. If you know what and where the false is, you just click the mute button on reflex and continue driving without interruption. Yes, Truelock saves you the trouble of touching a button. Big StrekStrekStrekStreking deal.
However, because Truelock cannot lock out a false that you cannot confirm as a false already, it doesn't do a thing for unidentified falses. When you're driving down that unfamiliar road, it's STILL going to alert to that false radar source you can't see and you're STILL going to slow down and start searching for the threat. Truelock can't help you because Truelock doesn't know anything that you don't already know.
In fact, the V1's directional antennas and arrows are the only things that can even BEGIN to solve the problem of unidentified falses. They are not a perfect solution, nor do they work 100% of the time, nor are they 100% accurate. But by giving you good information about the relative location of a radar source, they can, in combination with excellent ramp-up like the V1 has, help the driver identify a radar alert as being an unlikely or improbable threat. I would still like an even better system, but at least for now, I have more information about unknown radar contacts than any other detector on the market will give me.
The problem is that there are very few cars that can get anything out of Veil, and even then, only in particular circumstances.
I was driving a black VW GLI with no front plate and ALL of the chrome removed/painted over...it was about as nonreflective as possible, short of getting a flat black urethane coat respray. Testing it with a LIDAR gun demonstrated that this was enough to make it very slightly more difficult to lock, giving me a very brief period to brake very hard when the V1 lit up. And then I would get locked just like everybody else.
So unless you want to drive a completely blacked-out batmobile, Veil alone won't do much. You really need a LIDAR jammer. But last time I looked (and I have admittedly been out of the loop for a while now), the jammer technology had advanced to the point where the Laser Interceptor system was jamming all the way up to point blank range consistently...no room for improvement there. Veil was a genius solution to the problem of marginally-effective LIDAR jammers, but these days, why purposely buy a partially-effective jammer LED-based jammer when you can get a completely effective diode-based jammer instead?
Secondly, if YOU are actually breaking the law to warrant a ticket, it is not the officers fault that YOU have to pay for breaking the law. YOU did it, not the cop.
Even if enforcement was increased to try and catch more violators, YOU are still the one breaking the law. More cops on the road does not change that fact which YOU control.
Even if enforcement was increased to try and catch more violators, YOU are still the one breaking the law. More cops on the road does not change that fact which YOU control.
Or you could lay blame on an easily-fooled voting public and the politicians who curry favor with them by pushing unscientific and unreasonable "speed limits" in the name of "safety" in spite of scientific evidence otherwise. Just remember, all you have to do to get a law passed is say "It's for the children." It does not matter WHAT the law is, or how illogical it is, everybody will vote for it. Guaranteed.
Either way...as long as we sit on our asses and do nothing about it, it won't matter who we blame. It will only matter how stealthy we can be
Originally Posted by Cole
Second, where do you get this mis-information? Ticket writing is only a small reason to have a front plate, not the only one. With a tag on each end of the car it is MUCH easer to identify in a crime, easier to get a plate on a store security camera, etc. There is SOOOOOOOOOOO much more to police work than writing stupid speeding tickets.
04-28-2010, 12:03 AM
#47
Yes, as per the details of my post that was for a complete stealth installation - not just the mirror.
Have you done a 944 mirror before? I'd be interested if you think it can be done.
