951 S big brake upgrade?
02-02-2010, 11:32 PM
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^^^ was my next question. Rotors. First I need to figure out the calipers though. Okaay, so if the 993 rear calipers wont fit without mods, what do I have to do to make them fit?
Additionally, anybody have any leads on who makes adapters for Cayenne brakes?
Additionally, anybody have any leads on who makes adapters for Cayenne brakes?
02-02-2010, 11:38 PM
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Turbo S Per wikipedia
During the second to the last year of production of the 993 (1997), Porsche offered the 993 Turbo S. Ultimately 183 cars were sold. The Turbo S is a high-spec Turbo including a power upgrade to 424 hp (SAE) for the American market and to 450 hp (DIN) in other markets. The inclusion of extras including carbonfibre decoration in the interior makes it different from the earlier lightweight, spartan 964 Turbo S. The 993 Turbo S is recognized by yellow brake calipers, a slightly larger rear wing, a 4-pipe exhaust and air scoops behind the doors. This was the last of the air-cooled Turbos. 12 Turbo S cars were delivered to Australia.
Most critics today call it "the best porsche ever made" and that "it will never be defeated."
It was based on the GT2 but with 4WD and it was a bit more luxurious. It has the same brakes as the GT2 and same basic shape as the GT2.
During the second to the last year of production of the 993 (1997), Porsche offered the 993 Turbo S. Ultimately 183 cars were sold. The Turbo S is a high-spec Turbo including a power upgrade to 424 hp (SAE) for the American market and to 450 hp (DIN) in other markets. The inclusion of extras including carbonfibre decoration in the interior makes it different from the earlier lightweight, spartan 964 Turbo S. The 993 Turbo S is recognized by yellow brake calipers, a slightly larger rear wing, a 4-pipe exhaust and air scoops behind the doors. This was the last of the air-cooled Turbos. 12 Turbo S cars were delivered to Australia.
Most critics today call it "the best porsche ever made" and that "it will never be defeated."
It was based on the GT2 but with 4WD and it was a bit more luxurious. It has the same brakes as the GT2 and same basic shape as the GT2.
I actually have driven a few and sold a couple. GT2 based, lmao, yeah maybe if you ordered from Special wish direct but they would do anything as long as one paid and had the right connections ( at that time). If you were a US customer you were pretty much **** out of luck when it came to that thanks to PCNA and PAG not willing to deal with liability/leagality bla bla for a handful of bucks in the US.
02-03-2010, 02:35 AM
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why am I the only person in this thread using the term's "Offset" "radial mount"
"axial mount "..
Thank god I've got mine done without any of this confusing advice ...i have not sure now 11" long calipers that has red paint over black paint on 996 GT3 rear rotors on the front made the mounting blocks from T6 took about 2 or 3 hrs .
I've been playing with setting up some NASCAR brakes on another set of spindles .. the hats have to much offset but if you mount them on top of a wheel spacer this is no problem all of the stuff is cheap and they have ti pistons etc ...high spec pads a re cheap the pads are big so would last longer ..
"axial mount "..
Thank god I've got mine done without any of this confusing advice ...i have not sure now 11" long calipers that has red paint over black paint on 996 GT3 rear rotors on the front made the mounting blocks from T6 took about 2 or 3 hrs .
I've been playing with setting up some NASCAR brakes on another set of spindles .. the hats have to much offset but if you mount them on top of a wheel spacer this is no problem all of the stuff is cheap and they have ti pistons etc ...high spec pads a re cheap the pads are big so would last longer ..
02-03-2010, 03:55 AM
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Those terms are used all the time in these ceaseless threads. In reality we should have sticky posts at the top of this forum about "What brakes/wheels/tyres/turbo/exhaust/intercooler/rollcage etc etc etc...will fit my 951??" Then we could all get some rest.
02-03-2010, 04:02 AM
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BTW I've just sourced some slotted rotors that require some custom hats. If anyone is interested in getting some hats so that they can run a non OEM Slotted rotor as opposed to a OEM vented solid (not great for track) or OEM X drilled (good for track but needs replacing often)...then let me know. I might do a feeler thread on a couple of the other forums (964 3.6t / 928 GTS) to see if they're interested. The more the merrier. I don't know any costs yet. I'm speaking to the guy tomorrow. Someone else told me that you can expect to pay $500 per hat for a one off exercise. So if there's 10+ people this will bring the costs down per hat a lot. When you add up how fast you have to replace the X drilled rotors and how much longer the Slotted ones last, then the cost starts to become feasible.
...waiting for Adam to come and laugh at me....
...waiting for Adam to come and laugh at me....
02-03-2010, 04:18 AM
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Remember that there may be a limit to how big calipers you can just chuck on. If they go up in piston size you will in all reality affect your pedal pressure. You could also change your brake balance noticeably and wind up having a setup that wanted to send you backwards into the wall. Then you have to think about the stock Master Cylinder as well.
By all means go for it, but you have to do a bit of research first rather than just put the Biggest brakes on just for the sake of it.
02-03-2010, 05:47 AM
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2 What do I need to get 996 calipers to fit, front and rear, and where to get it?
02-03-2010, 06:30 AM
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Olli, this guy has Mo30 setup.
02-03-2010, 06:58 AM
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Easiest way to do it is to get Cayenne axial mount style calipers, fabricate adapters and choose a proper floting style disk and fabricate billet aluminum hat which helps align disk & caliper.
02-03-2010, 07:20 AM
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Yep, sure I read it. Bring it on my man. 
02-03-2010, 09:18 AM
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Just keep what you have, paint them red, get good pads and fluid, and thank me later. As others' have said, the "medium blacks" are plenty good for the street and track. The biggest difference I've seen is in pads and fluid. 
If you're going to paint them, take them off the car, clean thoroughly, rough them up with sandpaper, and use the high temp brake caliper paint. Tape off the stuff you don't want painted. Paint right over the "Porsche" and then use a finish sander later to take off the paint and make the letters shine.
If you're going to paint them, take them off the car, clean thoroughly, rough them up with sandpaper, and use the high temp brake caliper paint. Tape off the stuff you don't want painted. Paint right over the "Porsche" and then use a finish sander later to take off the paint and make the letters shine.
02-03-2010, 09:33 AM
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I would not bother to paint calipers myself when you usually get them powder coated almost the same cost what it takes to buy high temp paint. I have a 993 caliper set to be recontioned, local powder coat shop will do it less than $50.
02-03-2010, 02:28 PM
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Ok, here you go. I'll let you have them at a great price.
They're a direct bolt on for any Porsche and their braking characteristics are so good that they
actually create a vortex in time and suck you backwards through the field.
Awesome!
They're a direct bolt on for any Porsche and their braking characteristics are so good that they
actually create a vortex in time and suck you backwards through the field.
Awesome!