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Old 01-05-2010 | 01:16 AM
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If you're not tracking the car a lot, you don't need adjustability.
Everyone gets all up in that sort of thing. Don't get bogged down in ephemera.
Old 01-05-2010 | 03:19 AM
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any how you can put just the late longer arms and tie rods on but your least camber setting is increased .
I also agree that the rear spring bearing is the only solid bush conversion worth doing .. all the other bushings have very little rubber and therefor very little deflection
Old 01-05-2010 | 07:47 AM
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Last 2 comments are valid for sure. My friend runs a pretty stock 1986 and is just behind the club capt in his GT3 so you don't have to go crazy to have a fast car. If you're not going to focus (read 'obsess') about the track then I wouldn't bother. Keep the old offset and deep dish wheels.
Old 01-05-2010 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SamGrant951
At the very least you need the late hubs/spindles, bolting those on will change the offset. Your camber adjustment will be limited but Ive heard is OK for street use. To do it all you will also need the late tierods and control arms. Id throw in camber plates if its destined for track use.
Changing the late hubs and spindles doesn't affect offset, changing the arms does. Running the late hubs and spindles will affect the negative camber adjustment range when used with early arms (like no negative camber adjustment range). To get around this you will need camber plates or modify the spindle to strut holes in the spindle to allow more negative camber adjustment range
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Originally Posted by 951_RS
Hmm, yeah I've done a lot of reading on all of this, I'm just trying to find good ways of reaching my desired spring rates now.
I believe I'm going to go with inverted shocks using racer's edge lower shock mounts in rear and build around that.
Drew I had a Leda coilover system setup by Karl at Racer's Edge and it was cheap and a fantastic setup for street/track. I think it was only $1100 at the time and the key was Karl matched the valving and spring rates perfectly. It rode 100% better than the H&R coilover system on my old M3 on the street, and was fantastic on the track
Old 01-05-2010 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob
Changing the late hubs and spindles doesn't affect offset, changing the arms does. Running the late hubs and spindles will affect the negative camber adjustment range when used with early arms (like no negative camber adjustment range). To get around this you will need camber plates or modify the spindle to strut holes in the spindle to allow more negative camber adjustment range
Yeah you are correct, I forgot that I did that late offset swap in two parts (first changed hubs/spindles) but continued to use my spacers up front until I did late arms and tierods. Thanks for pointing that out, duh.
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Originally Posted by eclou
Drew I had a Leda coilover system setup by Karl at Racer's Edge and it was cheap and a fantastic setup for street/track. I think it was only $1100 at the time and the key was Karl matched the valving and spring rates perfectly. It rode 100% better than the H&R coilover system on my old M3 on the street, and was fantastic on the track
Thanks a lot, I think I'll give them a call to see if they can't help me out.
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I'm debating selling my Bilstein Escort Cup setup with 400\500 springs. I haven't decided yet, but I should soon. Let me know if you might be interested.
Old 01-05-2010 | 02:20 PM
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Definitely interested. Is it front and rear or just rear
Old 01-05-2010 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 951_RS
Definitely interested. Is it front and rear or just rear
Front and rear.
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Originally Posted by theedge
Front and rear.
How much would you want for the set if you decide to sell
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Thx to all for the info. Not trying to add the ABS. I gotta think that would be an issue one wouldn't even want to start down the road on (no pun intended) Just changing over the front end to that of an 87 951 (or later) will make a lot of things easier. Particularly when it comes to wheel selection.

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OMFG $1100 for Leda's .. was that in 1987 ?? how many spec levels is there in Leda ?
any how i think the point is that the later offset change is generally the very last on the list of suspension up grades.
Old 01-20-2010 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Prospeed_Motorsport
I understand the offset change. What I'd like to see is a list of the parts I will need. Any idea where I can find such?

TIA
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...t=early+offset
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...ghlight=hub+87
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