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Old 07-19-2010, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by toddk911
Actually, my thought behind this was not really for performance gains directly, but for the equal length runners, better plenum, etc.

Bascially molding the LR or Scott Gomez, etc. intakes, but out of plastic in a mass run instead of hand building and welding each intake like they do now.

Just take the LR intake but make it out of plastic; cheaper, better, faster.

And I'm not trying to block out LR or any other vendor. If they want to take a run at this, by all means.
thats something along the lines of what i was thinking could be done, because on a small scale with like CF (not regular injection molded plastic) it is really easy to change your mold to whatever shape you want.
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I thought metal was better than plastic. I guess "They don't build them like they used to" doesn't really apply afterall.
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yeh i was thinking aluminium flanges then carve or mold a wax plug cover it with CF kevlar etc then heat gun the plug out..
Old 07-19-2010, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gt37vgt
yeh i was thinking aluminium flanges then carve or mold a wax plug cover it with CF kevlar etc then heat gun the plug out..
Yep.

Actually, how hard would it be to take a stock intake and put a grinder or band saw to it and just cut the stock flanges off for reuse?
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not hard a few of us have done it. best to take and inch or 2 of runner as well for grafting have 4 short stumps from a 16v S inlet manifold i was considering a composite manifold as I found it difficult to weld the magnesium the stumps the S inlet is made from..
Old 07-19-2010, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by gt37vgt
yeh i was thinking aluminium flanges then carve or mold a wax plug cover it with CF kevlar etc then heat gun the plug out..
Originally Posted by toddk911
Yep.

Actually, how hard would it be to take a stock intake and put a grinder or band saw to it and just cut the stock flanges off for reuse?
Originally Posted by gt37vgt
not hard a few of us have done it. best to take and inch or 2 of runner as well for grafting have 4 short stumps from a 16v S inlet manifold i was considering a composite manifold as I found it difficult to weld the magnesium the stumps the S inlet is made from..
on CF-Al parts you prep the surfaces like paint (rough up slightly), add CF epoxy to both sides and generally you put the cf tube around the Al part and let it cure.
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mmm OK any more tips Rocket man ? perhaps a few links ?
where does on get CF tube ?
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http://www.fibreglast.com/category/Carbon_Fiber
http://www.fiberglasssupply.com/Prod...nd_kevlar.html
http://www.graphitestore.com/items_l...d=34&curPage=2

http://www.carbonfibertubeshop.com/cut%20&%20bond.html
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fwoo ok I'd better put a few days aside think I'll spend tomorrow watching CF tutorials on you tube
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Sounds like we are making progress.

So you are attaching 4 equal length tubes from the stock cut flange "nubs" and those to a bigger tube/cylinder/plenum. Is that in the ball park? Just trying to keep it simple.
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I fail to realize the need for this, other than under hood bling factor!

A tuned intake on a forced induction car is like a belly button ring on a beautiful woman... it looks neat, but serves very little purpose... going to this length for tuning an N/A car... again it is bling factor, not performance... the factory intake is actually decent, the effort making the intake would be MUCH beter spent on other areas to make beter gains, but that is just my oppinion, and we all know about oppinions! If you are racing, and running in a class that will permit use of a custom intake, you have already taken care of everything else....

IF it is just bling factor, just wrap the stock intake with CF, and be done with it...

FWIW, when my car is done, I doubt I will take many (if any) under hood pictures, nor do I think I will raise my hood at GTGs anymore... as I will only be letting them know not to bother, and it is SOOOO much more rewarding to see the look on their face!
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Originally Posted by JohnKoaWood
A tuned intake on a forced induction car is like a belly button ring on a beautiful woman... it looks neat, but serves very little purpose... going to this length for tuning an N/A car... again it is bling factor, not performance... the factory intake is actually decent, the effort making the intake would be MUCH beter spent on other areas to make beter gains, but that is just my oppinion, and we all know about oppinions! If you are racing, and running in a class that will permit use of a custom intake, you have already taken care of everything else....
+1, only real purpose for a standard NA type would be a few lbs saved. although on a 951 you can take proven designs (short runner/large wedge plenum) and recreate them, for the most part, fairly easily.
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How about some of this....



or some of this...
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^ "If you have to ask, you can't afford it" ^ JME
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Exactly what I am talking about replicating. Thanks for the pics.

And as V2 stated, just trying to replicate what is out there, only much cheaper; equal length runners and better plenum as the unequal length runners and current plenum are not the most effecient design.


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