I have to say. The 80's 911 is a VW bettle with a bigger engine
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Nine 11 this is the type of talk of the 911 snobbery, I know this thread was started by Sebastian to Bash 911, most of us have said good things about them. Here is my question, have you driven a 951, if no than you are being as narow minded as everyone bashing 911.
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I'll be the first to call BS on that one. A 120hp 2002 that weights 2400lbs with inline 4 torque vs a 170hp 2700hp car with flat 6 torque? But then again, anything on the internet must be true right?
I like the 951, there's no need to feel like the red headed step child and bring down the favorite just to make yourselves look good.![Stick Out Tongue](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
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I like the 951, there's no need to feel like the red headed step child and bring down the favorite just to make yourselves look good.
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I have some tests between the 2, and they were basically =, except for practicality and fit/finish...BMW much better...
the 911, iirc weighed 2700 and had 160 HP...and cost twice as much
so, you think this is about 'self worth'? really?
you = your car?
that's a bit messed up isn't it?
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I'll be the first to call BS on that one. A 120hp 2002 that weights 2400lbs with inline 4 torque vs a 170hp 2700hp car with flat 6 torque? But then again, anything on the internet must be true right?
I like the 951, there's no need to feel like the red headed step child and bring down the favorite just to make yourselves look good.![Stick Out Tongue](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
Remember, you can make any car go fast, but you can't make every car cool.![popcorn](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/popcorn.gif)
I like the 951, there's no need to feel like the red headed step child and bring down the favorite just to make yourselves look good.
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Remember, you can make any car go fast, but you can't make every car cool.
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You guys are as defensive on the 951 as any other car an enthusiast likes...but there's no need to put one car down. Everybody likes a particular car for their own reason. To each their own.
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probably get a 928 also
I don't care what you think, about me, or anything...why do you think I would? over inflated self worth?
you're not 'riling' anyone up, like I said, lighten up, no emotional content on this end...
'leading the charge'? do you consider this 'war'? or some sort of adversaial engagement? it's not, it's meaningless...again, learn to laugh
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Dude, anything is better than a vw, just because you have a badge that says Porsche who cares, still slow, spin out of control in tight turns and a AUDI 951 1/4 the cost of your precious Porsche leaves you in the dust. Porsche stopped making the 951's because it was faster, more refined than the 911Vw and cheaper, that wasn't financially convenient for the company. The 911 is not only slow but is freaking FUGLY. Well it's a bug after all. See the the many videos, i got the magazine articles, I can post them again but....you wouldn't understand.
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Ok your RS4 is faster than all the cars mentioned. Of course the RS4's tech is 20 years later and pretty much all modern performance cars are in the 5s now and so you've proven it... the 911 3.2 is slow, so is your 951 and 993s and a whole slew of other P-Cars. For a second there I thought you might even be offering a relatively unbiased view but I see now you have a certain disdain for the goold ole 911.
Doesn't really matter anyway... You're the fastest so I guess you win. Reminds me of every one and their brother stomping it at the stoplights to prove they're 4 door saloon could take my Carrera, I simply ignored every one of them. If I wanted the fastest car my money could buy, it wouldn't be a 911 OR a 951.
Doesn't really matter anyway... You're the fastest so I guess you win. Reminds me of every one and their brother stomping it at the stoplights to prove they're 4 door saloon could take my Carrera, I simply ignored every one of them. If I wanted the fastest car my money could buy, it wouldn't be a 911 OR a 951.
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Ok your RS4 is faster than all the cars mentioned. Of course the RS4's tech is 20 years later and pretty much all modern performance cars are in the 5s now and so you've proven it... the 911 3.2 is slow, so is your 951 and 993s and a whole slew of other P-Cars. For a second there I thought you might even be offering a relatively unbiased view but I see now you have a certain disdain for the goold ole 911.
Doesn't really matter anyway... You're the fastest so I guess you win. Reminds me of every one and their brother stomping it at the stoplights to prove they're 4 door saloon could take my Carrera, I simply ignored every one of them. If I wanted the fastest car my money could buy, it wouldn't be a 911 OR a 951.
Doesn't really matter anyway... You're the fastest so I guess you win. Reminds me of every one and their brother stomping it at the stoplights to prove they're 4 door saloon could take my Carrera, I simply ignored every one of them. If I wanted the fastest car my money could buy, it wouldn't be a 911 OR a 951.
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I'm hurt. We're back to name calling and all that eh? How mature. Is this a self worth thing? ![bigbye](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/xyxwave.gif)
You guys are as defensive on the 951 as any other car an enthusiast likes...but there's no need to put one car down. Everybody likes a particular car for their own reason. To each their own.
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You guys are as defensive on the 951 as any other car an enthusiast likes...but there's no need to put one car down. Everybody likes a particular car for their own reason. To each their own.
like calling the 951 owners apes?
or the red headed step child? or you don't think 'less' of us?
and we are jealous of you because of a car?
do you read the crap you write, or is it directly from your *** to screen
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Ok your RS4 is faster than all the cars mentioned. Of course the RS4's tech is 20 years later and pretty much all modern performance cars are in the 5s now and so you've proven it... the 911 3.2 is slow, so is your 951 and 993s and a whole slew of other P-Cars. For a second there I thought you might even be offering a relatively unbiased view but I see now you have a certain disdain for the goold ole 911.
Doesn't really matter anyway... You're the fastest so I guess you win. Reminds me of every one and their brother stomping it at the stoplights to prove they're 4 door saloon could take my Carrera, I simply ignored every one of them. If I wanted the fastest car my money could buy, it wouldn't be a 911 OR a 951.
Doesn't really matter anyway... You're the fastest so I guess you win. Reminds me of every one and their brother stomping it at the stoplights to prove they're 4 door saloon could take my Carrera, I simply ignored every one of them. If I wanted the fastest car my money could buy, it wouldn't be a 911 OR a 951.
but not why I bought it: great deal, AWD, amazing engine, 4 door, quality interior, fit/finish 10/10...fast is just an extra...
no 'disdain' for the 911, just an objective, unbrainwashed view...
the engineering and fundemental design is a compromise
NO one builds a rear engined car, for good reason...it'sd a bad concept!
even Porsche's new model designs are front/mid
you tink you have me 'pegged' when you don't even know yourself or you wouldn't be diagnosing people on the internet...