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I have to say. The 80's 911 is a VW bettle with a bigger engine

Old 10-26-2009, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by black944 turbo
Nine 11 this is the type of talk of the 911 snobbery, I know this thread was started by Sebastian to Bash 911, most of us have said good things about them. Here is my question, have you driven a 951, if no than you are being as narow minded as everyone bashing 911.
Yes, many. In fact, I'm looking to buy one to add to the Porsche stable. I think they're great cars.
Old 10-26-2009, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Nine11
I'll be the first to call BS on that one. A 120hp 2002 that weights 2400lbs with inline 4 torque vs a 170hp 2700hp car with flat 6 torque? But then again, anything on the internet must be true right?

I like the 951, there's no need to feel like the red headed step child and bring down the favorite just to make yourselves look good.

Remember, you can make any car go fast, but you can't make every car cool.
the 2002 weighed 2100 lbs, and had good torque, BMW motors are always designed for elasticity...it had 115 HP iirc, maybe less...

I have some tests between the 2, and they were basically =, except for practicality and fit/finish...BMW much better...

the 911, iirc weighed 2700 and had 160 HP...and cost twice as much

so, you think this is about 'self worth'? really?
you = your car?

that's a bit messed up isn't it?

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Old 10-26-2009, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Nine11
Smug? C'mon man....i'm slumming it down here in the 951 forum aren't I? How can I be smug if I'm hangin with the apes?
the only ape hanging around here is you..

arrogent and unknowledgable about cars too..
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Originally Posted by ArthurPE

so, you think this is about 'self worth'? really?
you = your car?

that's a bit fuked up isn't it?
I don't think any less of you because you have a 951.

I'm just kidding...I'm just riling up the troops here. You seem to be leading the charge.
Old 10-26-2009, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Nine11
I'll be the first to call BS on that one. A 120hp 2002 that weights 2400lbs with inline 4 torque vs a 170hp 2700hp car with flat 6 torque? But then again, anything on the internet must be true right?

I like the 951, there's no need to feel like the red headed step child and bring down the favorite just to make yourselves look good.

Remember, you can make any car go fast, but you can't make every car cool.
Dude, anything is better than a vw, just because you have a badge that says Porsche who cares, still slow, spin out of control in tight turns and a AUDI 951 1/4 the cost of your precious Porsche leaves you in the dust. Porsche stopped making the 951's because it was faster, more refined than the 911Vw and cheaper, that wasn't financially convenient for the company. The 911 is not only slow but is freaking FUGLY. Well it's a bug after all. See the the many videos, i got the magazine articles, I can post them again but....you wouldn't understand.
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Originally Posted by ArthurPE
the only ape hanging around here is you..

arrogent and unknowledgable about cars too..
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I'm hurt. We're back to name calling and all that eh? How mature. Is this a self worth thing?

You guys are as defensive on the 951 as any other car an enthusiast likes...but there's no need to put one car down. Everybody likes a particular car for their own reason. To each their own.
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Originally Posted by Nine11
I don't think any less of you because you have a 951.

I'm just kidding...I'm just riling up the troops here. You seem to be leading the charge.
I just bought mine as a toy... 3 months or so
probably get a 928 also

I don't care what you think, about me, or anything...why do you think I would? over inflated self worth?

you're not 'riling' anyone up, like I said, lighten up, no emotional content on this end...

'leading the charge'? do you consider this 'war'? or some sort of adversaial engagement? it's not, it's meaningless...again, learn to laugh
Old 10-26-2009, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by lart951
Dude, anything is better than a vw, just because you have a badge that says Porsche who cares, still slow, spin out of control in tight turns and a AUDI 951 1/4 the cost of your precious Porsche leaves you in the dust. Porsche stopped making the 951's because it was faster, more refined than the 911Vw and cheaper, that wasn't financially convenient for the company. The 911 is not only slow but is freaking FUGLY. Well it's a bug after all. See the the many videos, i got the magazine articles, I can post them again but....you wouldn't understand.
News flash. They're all VW's. Opinions are like a$$holes...everybody has one. Some are just bigger than others.
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Ok your RS4 is faster than all the cars mentioned. Of course the RS4's tech is 20 years later and pretty much all modern performance cars are in the 5s now and so you've proven it... the 911 3.2 is slow, so is your 951 and 993s and a whole slew of other P-Cars. For a second there I thought you might even be offering a relatively unbiased view but I see now you have a certain disdain for the goold ole 911.

Doesn't really matter anyway... You're the fastest so I guess you win. Reminds me of every one and their brother stomping it at the stoplights to prove they're 4 door saloon could take my Carrera, I simply ignored every one of them. If I wanted the fastest car my money could buy, it wouldn't be a 911 OR a 951.
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Originally Posted by 931GT
Ok your RS4 is faster than all the cars mentioned. Of course the RS4's tech is 20 years later and pretty much all modern performance cars are in the 5s now and so you've proven it... the 911 3.2 is slow, so is your 951 and 993s and a whole slew of other P-Cars. For a second there I thought you might even be offering a relatively unbiased view but I see now you have a certain disdain for the goold ole 911.

Doesn't really matter anyway... You're the fastest so I guess you win. Reminds me of every one and their brother stomping it at the stoplights to prove they're 4 door saloon could take my Carrera, I simply ignored every one of them. If I wanted the fastest car my money could buy, it wouldn't be a 911 OR a 951.
The Audi 951, most of the mongols with 911 think the 951 is an Audi. lol.
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Originally Posted by Nine11
I'm hurt. We're back to name calling and all that eh? How mature. Is this a self worth thing?

You guys are as defensive on the 951 as any other car an enthusiast likes...but there's no need to put one car down. Everybody likes a particular car for their own reason. To each their own.
name calling?
like calling the 951 owners apes?
or the red headed step child? or you don't think 'less' of us?
and we are jealous of you because of a car?

do you read the crap you write, or is it directly from your *** to screen
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Originally Posted by ArthurPE

'leading the charge'? do you consider this 'war'? or some sort of adversaial engagement? it's not, it's meaningless...again, learn to laugh
Ask yourself, I'm not the one name calling here....
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Originally Posted by Nine11
News flash. They're all VW's. Opinions are like a$$holes...everybody has one. Some are just bigger than others.
and some like yours stink more
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Originally Posted by Nine11
News flash. They're all VW's. Opinions are like a$$holes...everybody has one. Some are just bigger than others.
rolf, says the guy with the Vw, on the road just move out of the way for the new Nissan Versa, rolfmao.
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Originally Posted by 931GT
Ok your RS4 is faster than all the cars mentioned. Of course the RS4's tech is 20 years later and pretty much all modern performance cars are in the 5s now and so you've proven it... the 911 3.2 is slow, so is your 951 and 993s and a whole slew of other P-Cars. For a second there I thought you might even be offering a relatively unbiased view but I see now you have a certain disdain for the goold ole 911.

Doesn't really matter anyway... You're the fastest so I guess you win. Reminds me of every one and their brother stomping it at the stoplights to prove they're 4 door saloon could take my Carrera, I simply ignored every one of them. If I wanted the fastest car my money could buy, it wouldn't be a 911 OR a 951.
my RS4, a 4 door saloon, is faster than a 2007 997...same year
but not why I bought it: great deal, AWD, amazing engine, 4 door, quality interior, fit/finish 10/10...fast is just an extra...

no 'disdain' for the 911, just an objective, unbrainwashed view...
the engineering and fundemental design is a compromise
NO one builds a rear engined car, for good reason...it'sd a bad concept!
even Porsche's new model designs are front/mid

you tink you have me 'pegged' when you don't even know yourself or you wouldn't be diagnosing people on the internet...

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