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Old 09-12-2009, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnKoaWood
What the hell price is that!?
Old 09-12-2009, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Thom
The engine passed the 5000km mark this morning on the Autobahn.
I raised the boost from 15 to 16psi, the gearbox seems to stand the power pretty well.
The gearing with the 951 5 speed gearbox is fine, the problem is just that there should be a 6th gear on top of it, as the revs climb pretty quickly in 5th gear and it's frustrating to stop at 280kph or about on the speedo as there isn't an extra gear to allow you to clock another 20 or 30kph.

The gearbox I am looking for has about the same first five gears as the 951 trans but has a 6th gear that would theoretically allow for clocking 330kph at 6500rpm. That would be nice as my engine feels like it will bring me up there without any effort.

There are gears for taller 5th and 6th gearing for the 968 box. Porsche made these for the 968 Turbo. I forget who sells these in the US, but I know they are available. Don't know the sizes though.

I'm running the 968 box in my car, and we just added a cooler with an inline pump that is thermostat regulated.

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Old 09-12-2009, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 95ONE
What the hell price is that!?
Norway Kroner. Basically about $16500 US. How many do you want?
Old 09-12-2009, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by George D
There are gears for taller 5th and 6th gearing for the 968 box. Porsche made these for the 968 Turbo. I forget who sells these in the US, but I know they are available. Don't know the sizes though.

I'm running the 968 box in my car, and we just added a cooler with an inline pump that is thermostat regulated.

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The longer fifth and sixth is not enough, you need the longer final drive ratio that is in the 968 turbo S box.
Old 09-14-2009, 12:51 PM
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Yes, the 5th and 6th gear sets of the 968TS can help a bit, but without the tall R&P specific to the 968TS they are not worth considering as the gain would be minimal.

Given the info I have gathered so far it seems I will be leaning towards a 968 gearbox with upper gears from the VAG parts bin.
Old 09-14-2009, 06:35 PM
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any pics of that cooler rig up George ??
Old 09-15-2009, 01:39 AM
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sweet build,I'm doing my 3.0 this winter and it's been planned along the same specs as yours.Any dyno numbers yet?
Old 09-17-2009, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FASTRNU
Any dyno numbers yet?
Been working on a solution for the gearbox at the moment, putting it on the dyno is at the bottom of the agenda.

FWIW the only dyno near me saw a K26/6 951 put down 292bhp so I doubt I will be spending any money there to get a comparatively impossible figure, and they don't even provide the torque curve.
Old 09-17-2009, 05:26 AM
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I need a sixth gear.
I have a special Switzerland only S2 box with cooler & LSD. First 4 gears are shorter and 5th is longer than 951 S box has. This trans was very hard to find, because all swiss S2's does not have it. I managed to find three boxes, i kept one and sold the rest to Sweden & USA. I also had a brand new 968 Turbo RS box, sold that to USA about a year ago, which i have been regretting ever since
Old 09-17-2009, 05:41 AM
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Well that's great for you Olli, but that doesn't float my boat.

I don't value the 968 TRS gearbox higher than the 968 NA gearbox as I believe they share the same R&P.

By the way, looking forward to seeing a thread on your 3.0 build
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By the way, looking forward to seeing a thread on your 3.0 build
Shortage of the hobby funds have been delayed my project a lot. Most of the parts are in my garage. Some of the plans has been changed, i am going to re-locate the turbo another side of the engine, need more space for ITB's. Also cam wil be solid, just found out how it can be done for less money than earlier

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Old 09-17-2009, 05:13 PM
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Olli, do you have a part number for the Switzerland S2 gearboxes and how to telling them apart ?
Old 09-18-2009, 03:27 AM
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You need to find trans type 083 F ASW. Type ASV is the same, but without LSD. All Swiss versions did have oil cooler. ASV version is rather easy to find, ASW is a little bit harder. Of course LSD from your 951 trans (if you have one) can be installed quite easily to ASV type trans.
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Originally Posted by Olli Snellman
You need to find trans type 083 F ASW. Type ASV is the same, but without LSD. All Swiss versions did have oil cooler. ASV version is rather easy to find, ASW is a little bit harder. Of course LSD from your 951 trans (if you have one) can be installed quite easily to ASV type trans.
Thanks.

It'd be easier to find a ASW box than add my 951 LSD to an ASV unit.
Old 09-20-2009, 09:00 AM
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I think having the short first 4 gears, then a longer top gear would be too much of a step up between
4th and 5th. I'm going to go back to stock 951 gearing for my 3L build I think.


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