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Old 04-08-2009, 06:47 AM
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Luis What a surprise that you know such a things!! It was at least 7 years ago!!!! For sure, I do have thouse videos..... as well as videos of my previous 944 n/a. I will post them over youtube and will make new ones of 951. But..... 8 years ago with analogue camera..... eh........ quality is terrible .

Thank you very much for remembering me, it works very good as a motivation for making some new stuff !!!!!!
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Velns, how could I forget! That video driving the Benz in the snow was really, really fun and you chose the perfect music for it. It was a long time ago but you already showed some talent for video production. Let me know when you have it up on YouTube.

As for your car, it's nice to see you in a 951 after all the trouble you had with your 944. Good to see you!
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Originally Posted by Luis de Prat
The Porsche OPC in Switzerland recommended Mobil 1 5W-50 for my 951 when I bought it back in 2000 and it's worked very well for me so far.

I would go back to regular Mobil 1, personally, since it's specifically for performance automobile engines.

I hate to be the one to open this can of worms but... long story short, Mobil 1 is not a good oil choice for our engines due to extremely low ZDDP content. Our engines like/need ZDDP so you should use ZDDP additive if you're running Mobil 1 or choose an oil which already has a good ZDDP content. There are lots of threads discussing this topic and the research behind it if you search for them.
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Originally Posted by bigdeano
I hate to be the one to open this can of worms but... long story short, Mobil 1 is not a good oil choice for our engines due to extremely low ZDDP content. Our engines like/need ZDDP so you should use ZDDP additive if you're running Mobil 1 or choose an oil which already has a good ZDDP content. There are lots of threads discussing this topic and the research behind it if you search for them.
No, the can has been opened enough times.

Actually, I'm relying on fellow Rennlister and automotive lubricants expert Doug Hillary's research with this oil and the fact that it passed lab tests he had done to it with flying colors time and time again with longer than factory specified intervals.

Not to be confused with the new fangled Mobil 1 0W-40, mind you!
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Luis:
Here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QwIDmRhEa0
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Tried to post other videos, but no luck, wmg licence violations due to music used in videos , At least this and other 2 went ok.
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Originally Posted by bigdeano
I hate to be the one to open this can of worms but... long story short, Mobil 1 is not a good oil choice for our engines due to extremely low ZDDP content. Our engines like/need ZDDP so you should use ZDDP additive if you're running Mobil 1 or choose an oil which already has a good ZDDP content. There are lots of threads discussing this topic and the research behind it if you search for them.
Luis lives in Spain. I'm pretty certain that Euro Mobil 1 is of a different composition.
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I run 5w-50 castrol and have 4 bar at hot. As soon as I hit 1500 rpms the oil pressure is pegged at 5 bar the rest of the way threw the rev range.
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Originally Posted by velns
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Old 04-09-2009, 12:48 PM
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Going by the VDO gauge:

I'm pegged at 5 on startup and around 3 at warm idle using 10W-30 at the moment. 2k+ RPM it's around 4.5-5
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Originally Posted by Luis de Prat
No, the can has been opened enough times.

Actually, I'm relying on fellow Rennlister and automotive lubricants expert Doug Hillary's research with this oil and the fact that it passed lab tests he had done to it with flying colors time and time again with longer than factory specified intervals.

Not to be confused with the new fangled Mobil 1 0W-40, mind you!
Doug Hillary has never worked on a Porsche engine in his life. He is not a mechanic nor an oil expert. Time and time again Doug has been asked questions to which he never replies. Listen to people that have worked in the field. Search through Charles Navaro's posts in this website. Read the truth not one guy's fantasies.
Good luck with your engine Luis.
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
Doug Hillary has never worked on a Porsche engine in his life. He is not a mechanic nor an oil expert. Time and time again Doug has been asked questions to which he never replies. Listen to people that have worked in the field. Search through Charles Navaro's posts in this website. Read the truth not one guy's fantasies.
Good luck with your engine Luis.
Patrick, please don't put words in my mouth. I never said Doug Hillary had worked on Porsche engines. Just that he ran a series of lab tests on samples from his 928 running Mobil 1 synthetic. The tests are fact, not fiction. And yes, I've read through Charles Navarro's posts in Pelican. He recommends dino oil over synthetic. Talk about one guy's fantasy.

The following information from Porsche is good enough for me:
The following M1 Lubricants appear On Porsche's latest Service Technical Information Bulletin (STIB) No 1701 -1 dated July 28 2006 and have a currency until 17/10/2008 and are therefore suitable for use in a 993 engine;

M1 FF100 0w-40 - Current Factory Fill for all engines except Cayenne V6 (VW)
M1 0w-40+#
M1 5w-40*
M1 5w-50

+ This product is recommended by Mobil in NA and WW for use in a 993 engine
# This product is available in NA
The other products are variously available in WW

The following M1 product is suitable for use in a 993 engine but it has not been Approved under its product name by Porsche - see* above (this refers):

M1 5w-40 TDT

For persons wishing to use a non STIB Approved viscosity lubricant, the following two M1 versions are suitable for a 993 engine operated within this Ambient spread (-15 to >40C) (5f to >104f):

M1 15w-50
M1 15w-50EP

NOTE 1
All of the abovementioned M1 products have suitable levels of some of the very best Anti-Wear additives available (including ZnDDPs, Boron, Moly and complex Esters) and they meet and/or exceed the Anti-Wear standards set by ACEA and Porsche in 1994. These standards are still unchanged today!

NOTE 2
No M1 product that has ILSAC's GF-4 Approval is suitable for use in a 993
No M1 SAE30 (0w-30, 5w-30, 10w-30) viscosity lubricant is suitable for use in a 993

No SAE30 (0w-30, 5w-30, 10w-30) lubricant of any Brand has been Approved for use in a Porsche 993 engine since MY99. SAE30 lubricants typically fail the Porsche extended viscosity (@100C) and HTHS viscosity (@150C) and maybe "air in oil" test protocols.
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Luis trust me Mobil1 is **** oil, after three laps at track oil pressure dropped 2 bars I changed to Motul, no difference in oil pressure.
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Not putting words in your mouth Luis. Just clarifying any misconceptions people might have held over someone who professed to be an expert.
As for fantasy, well I'll take my advice from people who regularly work on these cars and see the results of using various oils over people that don't. That's all my point was about.
PS note that Mobil is changing the contents in some of their oils to increase the level of ZDDPs. Wonder why they're going backwards.....
PPS, was that listing from Porsche Germany or US?


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