hockeydude

Accuboost. No problems, worries, or bad experiances from anyone that i have ever seen use it, including myself.

wish that could be said for the black **** or LBE...

LFA951

I start building boost at 3 psi slowly, I have a stock wg without the cycling valve, so the LBE would do me no good...

LFA951

So far everyone says all these great things about them and no one has said if there is boost creep or staggered psi in different gears...or what benefits there are from the ball and spring over the bleeder valve on the black ****...

Keithr726

I use accuboost with my synapse WG just for the easy of adjusting boost but eliminating boost control with the synapse boost settings would be pretty safe.

Techno Duck

Boost controller type should be application specific. If you have a dual port you need a bleeder type (AKA black ****), if you have a single port wastegate, get a ball and spring type (Accuboost). The two types of wastegate operate differently and work best with different boost controllers.

The ball and spring type completley blocks signal to the wastegate until the predefined pressure is reached. This is fine for a single port wastegate where the air singal is only needed on one side of the diaphragm. A dual port wastegate constantly needs an air signal to the wastegate, this is because the dual port uses the air signal on both sides of the wastegate diaphragm to help keep the wastegate shut at anything other than full boost, hence why you need a bleed type wastegate.

I have no idea if your going to get boost creep with the stock wastegate and an accuboost as i have never tried that combo. I was simply stating that the black **** controller is not ideal for a single port wastegate.

Also someone implied that the black **** controller is problematic and not reliable. I think anyone who has had problems with them should also state if they are running a single or dual port wastegate and where they had them installed (high heat engine bay or in the cabin?). I think alot of the bad rap simply comes from people who dont pay attention to how much boost they are running. Any boost controller is a '**** of death' if you are not paying attention to your gauges (aftermarket boost gauge a must) or dont know how much boost you should be running in the first place. I use one in conjunction with a dual port wastegate and get perfect boost control in every gear except 1st of course (not enough load for full boost). Set it for 14-15psi in 4th gear and i get the same pressure in every other gear.

My experience with the stock wastegate and the black **** controller was pretty poor and honestly i dont see why anyone would continue to run the car this way. It took forever to dial in this boost controller because it literally took 2-3 turns to get 1psi change in pressure. I was seeing a 2-3psi difference for each gear also at full boost. I knew this was going to be a problem with the stock wastegate so i simply stayed off boost until i had time to put the dual port in. Now with the dual port, its usually about one or two 'clicks' on the controller to adjust 1 psi. Couldnt be any easier than that..no guess work or having to count full revolutions.

LFA951

Thank you, very nicely explained...now I have to return the black **** and decide if to get the Accuboost or the Joe P Inline, same ball and spring concept, $20 difference...

TurboTommy

Here's what I do; unorthadox but works brilliantly.
With shimmed stock wastegate, use LBE and behind it (towards the wastegate) you put in a bleeder valve.
The LBE acts like a gain (quick boost to the preset level) and the bleeder valve delivers a smooth rise to your max desired boost level. Never a spike and same boost in top 3 gears.
Try to use smallest possible air pressure feed (maybe a restrictor in the banjo line before the LBE) and smallest possible bleeder to achieve desired boost.

theedge

Neither, they both suck. Its more money, but get an electronic boost controller. So much better in my experience.

tone3721

+1 Lovin my sequential boost controller(sbc). Not cheap solution tho.

hockeydude

damnit... there's always about a thread per week that confuses me on something that i thought that i understood.... This is one of those! haha

now y'all have got me thinking that i need to swap out my amazingly accurate accuboost for a bleeder type for my Tial...

RPHARRIS

If it works then stick with it. I ran my Tial single port with Joe P for a while. Below 15 psi it really doesn't make a difference. At higher pressures you might start to encounter some "flutter." You'll know what I mean when it happens.

LFA951

NOw what do I do?

RPHARRIS

Dude it's really not that complicated

Stock Wastegate <---> Ball and Spring Controller (Accuboost, Joe P, turbo x****, etc) Some Electronic controllers may work as well.

Dual Port <---> Bleed Type (Black ****) or Electronic

hockeydude

yea, but i've got a tial and an accuboost and it works flawlessly to controll my pressure....

sooooooo obviously not that easy.

LFA951

What difference will there be? Boost creep is inevitable with either one, if anything will the ball and spring delay the signal over the ****?