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Old 10-14-2009, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by xschop
Did you measure the exact end to end lengths of both the manual and power rack rods (not tie-rods) end to end?

I am deciding which is the best route to go for adapting my bump steer kit to the manual rack since I've already done it for the Power rack and want to keep the inexpensive toyota tie rods that can be had for 40 bucks a pair.
Thanks, and definitely good work thinking out of the box....

BTW, the Toyota tie rods I sourced are M14 x 1.5
I assume that is the tap you used in the upper pic?
If I recall, I think the manual rack rod was about 1/8" shorter than the power rack rod. But I'm not too worried - the tierod end adjustment makes that up.

I believe you're right - it's M14 x 1.5. I can verify that later, if you like.
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No need to check, if you installed 944 Power inner tie rods to the manual rack, you had to tap M14 x 1.5

The only question I need answered now is what Thread size and pitch is the 944 manual rack ends machined for?

I have a manufacturer's book and may be able to find an inexpensive match for the manual rack for my purposes. Thanks again for this post. Which lathe are you running BTW? I have one that has threading and tapping capabilities and may wind up doing just as you have done.....
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Originally Posted by xschop
The only question I need answered now is what Thread size and pitch is the 944 manual rack ends machined for?
M22 x 1.5

My lathe is a Grizzly 16" x 40" I think. Got it from a machine shop going out of business. Unfortunately I don't have all of the threading gears for it (but will probably never need them.)
Old 10-15-2009, 12:14 AM
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Great work and awesome do it yourself initiative, but wow.. you guys are going through a ridiculous amount of work for a slower rack.. I don't understand. Route the power lines back into themselves with fluid in them. (On your current power rack) needs to stay lubricated - Done. Faster "manual" rack.. The feel is better than i hoped.. I love it.
Old 10-15-2009, 06:06 AM
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Think I've found the missing link.

How is the manual rack inner tie rod secured to the manual rack. Simply screw on tight?
Because the power inner rod has the locking tab for security.
Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by 95ONE
Faster "manual" rack.. The feel is better than i hoped.. I love it.
What front tire size do you run?


Originally Posted by xschop
Think I've found the missing link.

How is the manual rack inner tie rod secured to the manual rack. Simply screw on tight?
Because the power inner rod has the locking tab for security.
Thanks again.
There is a 2nd nut and a thick washer - p/n's 171.419.855 and 477.419.827
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Originally Posted by Van
What front tire size do you run?
Not only that, what size steering wheel? With a manual rack and Falken AZENIS RT-615 225/45R17 front tires, I had to go to a 370mm steering wheel to make it livable as a daily driver.
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Nice work Van. When I modify my steering it will be quite the opposite, I'm going for a shorter ratio steering and keeping the power steering.
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18" TT2 from a carrera4 I think. I traded for them to get the Lexus 4-pots to clear.
Idea of Popeye forearms.....That's what made me stay with the power rack and pump....LOL
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Originally Posted by Duke
When I modify my steering it will be quite the opposite, I'm going for a shorter ratio steering and keeping the power steering.
I look forward to the details of that project!
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Originally Posted by CurtP
Not only that, what size steering wheel? With a manual rack and Falken AZENIS RT-615 225/45R17 front tires, I had to go to a 370mm steering wheel to make it livable as a daily driver.
on a 225 tire ???? damn bro may want to head to the gym

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Moog VO-AX-7181 (volkswagen TA1283) + Lockheed Delphi TA770 (volkswagen 171 419 812) = win.

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Originally Posted by Voith
Moog VO-AX-7181 (volkswagen TA1283) + Lockheed Delphi TA770 (volkswagen 171 419 812) = win.
Voith, is this the combo that fits a manual rack on an early offset car?
Thanks, could be a gold mine.
Old 01-23-2014, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bonus12
Voith, is this the combo that fits a manual rack on an early offset car?
This combo with early offset rack will fit late offset car.

If you want to use early offset rack on early offset car Moogs can be shortened and new threads cut to them for easy enough solution.

This is late offset power rack and early offset manual rack fitted with moogs:

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OK, thanks voith. I have an early rack and early offset.



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