Porsche 951/2 calendar for 2010
02-23-2009, 09:39 PM
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How do magazines like 911 & Porsche World get around this then? In every issue car magazines print pictures of cars and make money from this wheather the car is new or old?
02-23-2009, 09:50 PM
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02-23-2009, 10:15 PM
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"PORSCHE N.A. owns all rights to images, fascimiles, photographs, reproductions and likenesses to their products as a whole and without prejudice. Reproduction in any form for profit or non-profit endeavors would require the expressed written approval of PORSCHE N.A. prior to release, distribution or sale of applied format. Submittals in triplicate must be provided along with appropriate applications no less than ninety calender prior to requested approval and/or release date. Acceptance of application shall not be deemed as a contract, expressed, implied or otherwise between PORSCHE N.A. and the applicant. PORSCHE N.A. will not be liable for content not exclusively approved for use."
Been here not long ago...."Girls of CPR"...and why my legal dept. would not let mine get off the ground.
Magazines are allowed to reproduce as part of all car companies agreement with the press...FYI.
Hopefully you will have better luck, although I think if you wish to open it up to sponsors, it should be unilateral. Not just tuners.
Just my .02
Been here not long ago...."Girls of CPR"...and why my legal dept. would not let mine get off the ground.
Magazines are allowed to reproduce as part of all car companies agreement with the press...FYI.
Hopefully you will have better luck, although I think if you wish to open it up to sponsors, it should be unilateral. Not just tuners.
Just my .02
02-23-2009, 10:23 PM
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Hopefully you will have better luck, although I think if you wish to open it up to sponsors, it should be unilateral. Not just tuners.
02-23-2009, 10:27 PM
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Very hard to do because legally Porsche owns any pictures of your car used to make money.
We ran into the same problem on a couple other forums. From what I recall, Ford sued a mustang forum because they sold calenders with pictures of mustangs as the primary focus.
Correct me if I am wrong, that is just some thing I recall hearing.
We ran into the same problem on a couple other forums. From what I recall, Ford sued a mustang forum because they sold calenders with pictures of mustangs as the primary focus.
Correct me if I am wrong, that is just some thing I recall hearing.
...and no, you won't get away with it, unless by "getting away with it" includes losing everything that you own.
Otherwise, I'd love one. I think I own the only nautic blue 951 on the board.
02-23-2009, 10:29 PM
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I am only relating the responses I have actually seen. I am not trying to discourage you in any capacity, just sharing my recent transgression with PORSCHE N.A.
I say go for it.
02-23-2009, 10:33 PM
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How about we try the 'not for sale to the public" angle - kind of like a club newsletter but a little nicer! Rennlist membership would be needed to purchase.
So this means I have to finish some projects for September?!
So this means I have to finish some projects for September?!
02-23-2009, 10:44 PM
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Chris I like your way of thinking lol bit Like Duty Free 
Yes we could put that at the bottom of each page!
Patrick - Are PORSCHE N.A. really that strict mate? I honestly don't see them taking anybody to court especially as our cars are all modified with third parts products etc?
Yes we could put that at the bottom of each page!
Patrick - Are PORSCHE N.A. really that strict mate? I honestly don't see them taking anybody to court especially as our cars are all modified with third parts products etc?
02-23-2009, 10:46 PM
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"PORSCHE N.A. owns all rights to images, fascimiles, photographs, reproductions and likenesses to their products as a whole and without prejudice.
Sometimes, I wish I was a lawyer just to shred stuff like this (and that indemnity clause that every big buyer puts in a contract that says its my fault as the supplier, even if the damages arise because of something they did)....
02-23-2009, 10:48 PM
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Sometimes, I wish I was a lawyer just to shred stuff like this (and that indemnity clause that every big buyer puts in a contract that says its my fault as the supplier if they did it)....
02-23-2009, 10:57 PM
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Chris I like your way of thinking lol bit Like Duty Free
Yes we could put that at the bottom of each page!
Patrick - Are PORSCHE N.A. really that strict mate? I honestly don't see them taking anybody to court especially as our cars are all modified with third parts products etc?
Yes we could put that at the bottom of each page!
Patrick - Are PORSCHE N.A. really that strict mate? I honestly don't see them taking anybody to court especially as our cars are all modified with third parts products etc?
As for them taking anyone to court....I guess that is all relevant to what they think they can gain. Whether by financial pennalty, corporate control/satisfaction or to set an example.
Although, I do not see any issues, I am also not the one who owns the trademarked/copyrighted product. Keep in mind this all open to interpretation and perhaps my perpetration of the flesh intermixed with PORSCHE cars was one my attorneys thought they would not find agreeable.
As I stated I do not see it as being a big deal...just sharing a recent experience.
Print it already
02-23-2009, 11:00 PM
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Some laws simply suck mate
However, my point was that companies frequently write contracts with language that is not enforceable in law.
Now to get back on track. If you do sort this out, I am in for one. (check for a PM)
02-23-2009, 11:01 PM
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Chris I like your way of thinking lol bit Like Duty Free
Yes we could put that at the bottom of each page!
Patrick - Are PORSCHE N.A. really that strict mate? I honestly don't see them taking anybody to court especially as our cars are all modified with third parts products etc?
Yes we could put that at the bottom of each page!
Patrick - Are PORSCHE N.A. really that strict mate? I honestly don't see them taking anybody to court especially as our cars are all modified with third parts products etc?
YES! They are damned well that strict! They have an army of VERY nasty lawyers. The Women of Rennlist couldn't even break Porsche N.A.'s rules when all of the profits were going directly to Rennwish. I think you will find that Porsche A.G. is equally bad, if not worse.
And YES! it is and will be enforceable and enforced.
Like I said, I WANT ONE!
I ain't holding my breath. We couldn't even make 951 t-shirts, a few years back.