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Old 02-23-2009, 08:32 PM
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Kokeln raised mount.

if you put these on your car, will this lower your car?

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Originally Posted by etiennekuh
Kokeln raised mount.

if you put these on your car, will this lower your car?

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Yes, but I don't think you would even be able to use those with stock springs.
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Originally Posted by Lorax
Yes, but I don't think you would even be able to use those with stock springs.
You can't.

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Old 02-23-2009, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MPD47
You can't.

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Yes, but I don't think you would even be able to use those with stock springs.
i now have M030 suspension, is the spring diameter then to large?
Old 02-23-2009, 09:33 PM
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I have DynaTechs and theyre awsome, well worth it if you can get a set. The only thing im a bit unhappy about is I have yet to find a socket that can fit in there to tighten the nut really tight.
I have a 7/8th deep socket that works. You have to use an impact gun and just "shock" it on there, otherwise you can use a 7/8's O2 sensor socket with an open side (which I also have) and stick a 10mm wrench in there to hold the strut top while you turn the socket. (very goofy system)

You can borrow them anytime you are downtown next. just call me.
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Originally Posted by Rich Sandor
I have a 7/8th deep socket that works. You have to use an impact gun and just "shock" it on there, otherwise you can use a 7/8's O2 sensor socket with an open side (which I also have) and stick a 10mm wrench in there to hold the strut top while you turn the socket. (very goofy system)

You can borrow them anytime you are downtown next. just call me.
That's a good idea in a pinch.
Old 02-23-2009, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Sandor
lol@gururacing! Thats oldskool 944 shizza.
Those were Weltmeister camber plates with his name on them.
Old 02-24-2009, 12:22 AM
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edit: whoops, wrong thread...
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Originally Posted by etiennekuh
i now have M030 suspension, is the spring diameter then to large?
Unless it's a 2.5" or a 2.25" spring it wont work.
Old 02-24-2009, 05:15 PM
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The hardware on the LR camber plates was not too short, the grade of hardware was too low. Allen cap screws need to be class 12.9 not 8.8. The case hardened allen cap screws do not strip like the 8.8 class hardware...in fact, I have never seen allen cap screws that were not black 12.9 class in anything. The 8.8 steel allen cap screws included strip out after the first 2 or 3 uses.
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My .02 cents.

The Kokeln are the way to go for sure.

BUT... only if you have non-stock control arms. This because they allow the entire strut to sit higher in the car, which allows the control arm to move further in its upward arc, which obviously creates a more extreme ball angle at it's full extension than otherwise possible.

So... you can get the car lower with out sacrificing wheel trave (which is why they are designed the way they are). But, you have to have ball joints that can work with the extra travel, and/or redrill the cross member to reposition the A arm higher (upwards) in the control arm.

In any case, these are what I'll be moving to.

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Originally Posted by TonyG
My .02 cents.

The Kokeln are the way to go for sure.

BUT... only if you have non-stock control arms. This because they allow the entire strut to sit higher in the car, which allows the control arm to move further in its upward arc, which obviously creates a more extreme ball angle at it's full extension than otherwise possible.

So... you can get the car lower with out sacrificing wheel trave (which is why they are designed the way they are). But, you have to have ball joints that can work with the extra travel, and/or redrill the cross member to reposition the A arm higher (upwards) in the control arm.

In any case, these are what I'll be moving to.

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It would be nice if those aftermarket control arms angled upwards to compensate like a design I have seen around here.
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Originally Posted by Lorax
It would be nice if those aftermarket control arms angled upwards to compensate like a design I have seen around here.

The trick is to redrill the cross member in conjunction with control arms that have ball joints with a greater range of travel.


It's on my never ending list of "to do" items.


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Old 02-25-2009, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyG
The trick is to redrill the cross member in conjunction with control arms that have ball joints with a greater range of travel.


It's on my never ending list of "to do" items.


TonyG
Or buy some custom spindles.

($$$)
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Originally Posted by Lorax
Or buy some custom spindles.

($$$)

Or use 996/997 spindles.

But that, unfortunately screws up the tie rod angle which really can't be corrected enough for anything other than super stiff track cars.


Or custom struts with the spindle mounting bracket raised (which still needs the same requirements as a raised camber plate).


TonyG


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