jf951

i was always corrected and told the correct term is "anti-sway" bars.
anyway, does the 968 rear s-bar allow for dangerously too much oversteer? or are the settings all within a safe range of tuning in under-steer and over-steer.
(i mean if i wanted too much oversteer i'd drive a...well i won't go there)
i've got the front 968 bar now i'm putting on the rear bar on my 89s koni sport kit, lowered.
thanks,
jf

Mike Lindsey

The 968 19mm 3 way bar has three holes. If you work from the center hole, going out is 7% softer and going in is 7% stiffer. That's not a huge amount. Our 5 way version gives you the same 7's and 7 more in each direcion on top of that.

black944 turbo

I have the same setup and middle notch gives a touch oversteer, I don't think you have anything to worry about. I have mine set to the middle adjustment, it is neutral and borders on oversteer. Others will disagree

ausgeflippt951

Here was my setup, and it worked amazingly:

Koni Yellows
250# springs
Stock T-bars
Turbo S front bar
19mm 968 bar, at the second setting

The car rotated beautifully; at the track I could set the car up into a 4-wheel drift and steer with the throttle.

Play around with it. If you're getting too much oversteer, dial it back. It's that simple.

black944 turbo

My setup is very similar, I feel the same way.

Stock T-bar
200# springs
Koni Yellows
968 M030 sways front and rear (set in middle)

333pg333

I find that even on the middle setting my car just wants to rotate. Amazing how such a small adjustment wants to back me off into the wall! To combat the understeer or lack of turn in especially on slower hairpins etc, I tried the middle setting but it seems like I'm weakening a strength to strengthen a weakness.
Conversely I wonder if getting an adj front bar might give me some more turn in? I don't think I'm confidant of my logic though...

TurboTommy

It also depends on what kind of driving style one prefers.
Would you rather have a car where there is minimal threat of getting loose on ya, at the expense of slow turn in on the slower corners. Me; I hate it when the car doesn't want to turn in, so I like a little stiffer rear. Ya just can't make a mistake when driving faster (I know, that's pretty bold talk). I 've got the rear Welts; just do everything from the rear, adjustment wise, depending on how tight the turns are at your venue.

333pg333

Yes I know what you mean. I'm not averse to car control but I find that oversteer or backing off from it, can slow you down just as much. Getting the car all crossed up and outta shape is fun but slow. I hate the waiting on the slow corners too though. Just have to find the happy medium. I'm also going to be going up to 10" all round next season so that will change things too.

mel_t_vin

Mike, would you happen to know what the three holes on the CS bar [and the five holes on your bar] equate to in non-adjustable sway bar diameters? Like maybe, ~18mm/~19mm/~20mm?

Duke

Pat is your shocks adjustable in both comp and rebound?
If so, I would adjust there

TheRealLefty

Now Duke takes us into voodoo territory Am I correct in stating that garden variety Koni Sport single adjustables, contrary to popular opinion, are not adjustable for compression but rather rebound? That's a mind bender for me...in that all the time I was stiffening or softening externally adjustable front Koni's to fairly good effect (stiffer for more understeer, softer for more oversteer) I thought I was increasing or decreasing the shock's compression rate, when it turns out I was simply dealing with the resistance it puts up upon rebound.

I've read that double adjustables can work miracles that allow for much stiffer springs without the bad things that accompany same, but really don't grasp how.

Luis de Prat

I just bought a set of front and rear 968 M030 sways which I'm looking to install over the weekend for the 951 cab.

What setting should I try on the rear bar? Noticed it has 3 holes, but not sure how they are adjusted. TIA

black944 turbo

I would start in the middle and if to much understeer go inboard with it and to much oversteer then do the opposite. I run mine in the middle, M030 Front and rear with 200# front and stock t-bars.

Luis de Prat

Thanks. How's the rear bar R/R? I've done the front bars a few times, but this is my first rear bar.

anders44

I had to set them to softest due to my stiff suspension to kill the funky oversteeeeeer, its still there, just better to control now.