Faster steering
#31
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Yes i have some progress. Most likely i am going to modify original 951 rack. Found couple of companies here in Finland which has modified ZF-made racks over 20 years. They make completely new internal parts and totally rebuild the rack. Here's newly made internal parts, you can have it with the specifications you like, but most popular ones are 2,5 and 2,7 turns from lock to lock.
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Unfortunately I have only been able to find custom MANUAL rack internals. Nothing for power racks. Although I like the simplicity of the manual rack, I think power is the way to go - it's less strain on the driver after a long race.
These custom made racks look nice. What is the lock-lock ratio on our power steering 951s? Which ratio are you going with? It would be nice to compare many of the newer cars.
These custom made racks look nice. What is the lock-lock ratio on our power steering 951s? Which ratio are you going with? It would be nice to compare many of the newer cars.
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Yes i have some progress. Most likely i am going to modify original 951 rack. Found couple of companies here in Finland which has modified ZF-made racks over 20 years. They make completely new internal parts and totally rebuild the rack. Here's newly made internal parts, you can have it with the specifications you like, but most popular ones are 2,5 and 2,7 turns from lock to lock.
![](http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/olli951/steering.jpg)
![](http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/olli951/steering.jpg)
At the Autocross, I couldn't turn the wheel fast enough to keep pace with how fast I was going past the cones.... view video in previous post. I was tired and felt just like someone mentioned earlier. A Karate Expert. LOL.
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Alignment has a huge effect on steering input - a better alignment means you'll be turning the wheel less. If you think you have the alignment you want and still wish for quicker steering you could use rod ends to replace the stock tie rod ends and have a custom bolt machined to also act as a spacer to bring the tie rod closer to being parallel with the ground.
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Alignment will only do so much. Bump steer is a seperate issue.
As I said before, we should compare the lock-to-lock of newer cars (even some older ones) and you can see the 944 is at a disadvantage, especially in the initial 90deg of range.
As I said before, we should compare the lock-to-lock of newer cars (even some older ones) and you can see the 944 is at a disadvantage, especially in the initial 90deg of range.
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Yes i have some progress. Most likely i am going to modify original 951 rack. Found couple of companies here in Finland which has modified ZF-made racks over 20 years. They make completely new internal parts and totally rebuild the rack. Here's newly made internal parts, you can have it with the specifications you like, but most popular ones are 2,5 and 2,7 turns from lock to lock.
![](http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/olli951/steering.jpg)
![](http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/olli951/steering.jpg)
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Answers to you questions:
Both manual and power versions can be made. I am going to use original 951 rack with modified internals. They will fabricate the parts seen in the picture.They will also install all new seals and gaskets, so it is also a total rebuild. I have not yet decided will i go to 2,5 or 2,7 turn version.
I have asked if they can sell just the internal parts and customer can make modification locally, it's quite expensive to send racks for example from the States to Finland for modification & rebuild. Most likely these racks (or just internal parts) can be bought in the near future from some 944 store which is Rennlist supporter. Price is still under negotiation.
Both manual and power versions can be made. I am going to use original 951 rack with modified internals. They will fabricate the parts seen in the picture.They will also install all new seals and gaskets, so it is also a total rebuild. I have not yet decided will i go to 2,5 or 2,7 turn version.
I have asked if they can sell just the internal parts and customer can make modification locally, it's quite expensive to send racks for example from the States to Finland for modification & rebuild. Most likely these racks (or just internal parts) can be bought in the near future from some 944 store which is Rennlist supporter. Price is still under negotiation.
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Very nice Olli.
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heres pics of an mk1 rack http://www.bcmr2.com/forums/phpBB2/v...f7c532a4fcbeed It looks like it would take some work to make it fit
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I'd love to get a 2 turn lock to lock rack myself.
Really though the rack bolts up very simply so it's just a matter of finding an aftermarket rack with a close enough input shaft angle. I don't see why it would be hard to fit a cheap aftermarket one from Summit or wherever.
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Yes i have some progress. Most likely i am going to modify original 951 rack. Found couple of companies here in Finland which has modified ZF-made racks over 20 years. They make completely new internal parts and totally rebuild the rack. Here's newly made internal parts, you can have it with the specifications you like, but most popular ones are 2,5 and 2,7 turns from lock to lock.
![](http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/olli951/steering.jpg)
![](http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/olli951/steering.jpg)
Nice work Olli,
I'm also interested in a quicker rack, but never did anything about it (until now).
I'd probably go 2.5 on mine.
Please keep me posted on prices and availability.
Thanks,
TonyG
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Unfortunately I have only been able to find custom MANUAL rack internals. Nothing for power racks. Although I like the simplicity of the manual rack, I think power is the way to go - it's less strain on the driver after a long race.
These custom made racks look nice. What is the lock-lock ratio on our power steering 951s? Which ratio are you going with? It would be nice to compare many of the newer
These custom made racks look nice. What is the lock-lock ratio on our power steering 951s? Which ratio are you going with? It would be nice to compare many of the newer
Thanks