Potomac-Greg

Funny how the brain ages. At first the Escort Cups seemed like a way to upgrade without touching the t-bars. But then I noodled through the "loaded/unloaded" thing and realized it was not going to eliminate the problem. So I was leaning back toward the Koni solution.

BUT, yanking the t-bars is a one-time, low-intellect activity (the real big-brain stuff is in the fine-tuning), so I can yank them and be done with it. So now I'm back on the Bilstein bandwagon. Until I have the next revelation.

blodstrupmoen

Is there anyone that has experience with a coilover solution w/out t-bars failing ?

bw993

I am running the bilstein cups with 400/600lb springs (F/R) on my 951 without T-BARS. This is my track car and I have not had any problems. The real issue with removing the T-BARS is with the compression/stress forces that the rear sees when it is slammed at high speeds over bumps (i.e speed bumps, potholes) .

ehall

Frankly, you cdan use any quality coil over, with proper valving and spring rate. Koni, Leda, Moton among others offer the same or similar solution/product allowing the same simlicity. Some of those over greater adjustability that the Escorts, so they are worth looking into with an open mind. I think the Bilsteins off a good compromise economically.

Spidey944

Gonna chime in here, why is it that I never hear of anyone using the Firehawk set-up? Been on the fence as to what to buy when it comes time, but never hear anyone speak of this option. Is there a reason?

333pg333

If you're not racing full on why do you need to remove the t-bar? Who amongst you is going to change their rear coils on a regular basis?

Potomac-Greg

From what I hear, getting the rear bars properly set up even once is a bear of a job. So, if one suspension job involves simply removing the t-bars, and another involves replacing and adjusting them, then you would favor the former job, all else being equal. I agree, though, that once you set your ride height, you're not going to be doing it that frequently (if at all).

Jeremy Himsel

Actually, provided you have some mechanical skill and know how to measure and do some math, getting the t-bars set properly the first time isn't much harder then removing them all together. It adds another half hour or so but isn't really that hard. I still run my stock t-bars with my escorts and coil overs.

333pg333

Every time I read about people having to compromise on their suspension between stiff enough to help at the track, yet compliant enough to drive around town, I can only thank the lord that I came upon my KW's. They really do allow you to have both and not feel compromised.
Ok sorry, back to the subject.