Custom lower and wider front suspension
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Beautiful work and an elegant solution. It will be interesting to see how it takes a hit and holds up long term.
I've taken a few hits on the front but fortunately for me the suspension has never been damaged. Fenders and wheels, yes. I could probably fold the car in half before the charlie arms give up. I even nailed a BMW I was lapping - just like your video.
I've taken a few hits on the front but fortunately for me the suspension has never been damaged. Fenders and wheels, yes. I could probably fold the car in half before the charlie arms give up. I even nailed a BMW I was lapping - just like your video.
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A very elegent solution. I always thing that the simplest engineering solution are often the most elegant and usually work better.
From the photos (if i'm reading them right) it looks like your front mount has been raised (i.e. to lower the car) but it looks like your castor mount has been moved inboard but not raised. Is this right and if so why is this? What advantage/benefit does having unequal length sides to your V arm have?
From the photos (if i'm reading them right) it looks like your front mount has been raised (i.e. to lower the car) but it looks like your castor mount has been moved inboard but not raised. Is this right and if so why is this? What advantage/benefit does having unequal length sides to your V arm have?
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gotto love it hans, good thing you have done it before, so it's easy for you do do it again when I'm around
your car/widebody thread has spread to misc car forums over the world as well good work.
your car/widebody thread has spread to misc car forums over the world as well good work.
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Not sure if it would help with clearances, but you can always tie the sway bar to the strut, rather than retaining the stock attachment point.
Very nice work. My only comment would have to do with the angle of the tie rods. I could be looking at it wrong, but it seems like you'd have some serious bumpsteer.
-Jon
Very nice work. My only comment would have to do with the angle of the tie rods. I could be looking at it wrong, but it seems like you'd have some serious bumpsteer.
-Jon
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A very elegent solution. I always thing that the simplest engineering solution are often the most elegant and usually work better.
From the photos (if i'm reading them right) it looks like your front mount has been raised (i.e. to lower the car) but it looks like your castor mount has been moved inboard but not raised. Is this right and if so why is this? What advantage/benefit does having unequal length sides to your V arm have?
From the photos (if i'm reading them right) it looks like your front mount has been raised (i.e. to lower the car) but it looks like your castor mount has been moved inboard but not raised. Is this right and if so why is this? What advantage/benefit does having unequal length sides to your V arm have?
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Very nice work. My only comment would have to do with the angle of the tie rods. I could be looking at it wrong, but it seems like you'd have some serious bumpsteer.
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I had the same discussion with the guy who made this.
According to him the stiffness of the structure between the two mounting points is such, that any reinforcement of the A (or in this case V) arm contributes very little. The majority of the load would come to the front rod and that is a lot stronger than the original aluminum setup.
He has build the same solution on rally cars, where the loads are much higher.
So I decided to trust him.
According to him the stiffness of the structure between the two mounting points is such, that any reinforcement of the A (or in this case V) arm contributes very little. The majority of the load would come to the front rod and that is a lot stronger than the original aluminum setup.
He has build the same solution on rally cars, where the loads are much higher.
So I decided to trust him.
I believe that the cross-brace was originally used for composite tubs in Formula cars where you are trying to prevent the A-arm from punching right through and injuring the driver.
From there, it was probably one of those things where the next guy to design an a-arm said "well, that looks like a good idea...I'll do the same thing"
That setup looks really nice and exactly how a race car should look.
How can you grow the track by an inch without ending up with a ton of negative camber?
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4 answers:
- It can vary by an inch an a bit, and it is set in a way, that when in future I would want to drive a larger rims size I could make it a bit shorter.
- I always run at least 3 deg negative camber.
- We have changed the strut in a way that we can kind of shim the original camber position to any of three what would have been fixed positive settings
- There is still some room left in the top camber plate.
One cm extra width is about one neg. degree of camber
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Very impressive Hans!! Would love to see your car sometime. I do get over the Netherlands in the summer. I have gone with the Kokeln rear torsion delete too so may be after some set up tips!
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Would be nice! Almost every Thursday you can drive on the Zolder circuit, just south of the Dutch border, provided you got a racers license. Perhaps an idea?
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