Stock wastegate vs. Tial
07-24-2007, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 95ONE
Funny. I did the same thing last year. But I didn't know you did it a year before me. My comparison was a little more exagerated. My wastegate had no shims and was toast. I'm curious though... Did you use the stock cycling valve before and after? I just dont have faith in that thing. and i see people on here wanting to keep it because of its safety features. That has its true merits, but curious if performance is given up?
07-24-2007, 12:55 AM
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I also swithched from a shimmed WG to Tial and am very happy- it made a noticeable improvement. The shimmed one bled off to 12-13 at redline and the Tial holds 15 easily. I'll post a Dyno comparison within the next few weeks.
Lart, why is the Tial chart so choppy and the previous one smooth? My original was choppy and I was hoping the Tial would smooth it out. https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...highlight=dyno
Lart, why is the Tial chart so choppy and the previous one smooth? My original was choppy and I was hoping the Tial would smooth it out. https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...highlight=dyno
07-24-2007, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by kevincnc
I also swithched from a shimmed WG to Tial and am very happy- it made a noticeable improvement. The shimmed one bled off to 12-13 at redline and the Tial holds 15 easily. I'll post a Dyno comparison within the next few weeks.
Lart, why is the Tial chart so choppy and the previous one smooth? My original was choppy and I was hoping the Tial would smooth it out. https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...highlight=dyno
Lart, why is the Tial chart so choppy and the previous one smooth? My original was choppy and I was hoping the Tial would smooth it out. https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...highlight=dyno
that was my initial run, I had to do some tuning after that, this is one of my latest charts
07-24-2007, 01:26 AM
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Ahh, very nice. Not sure I'll have the ***** to turn mine up to 21 though. Then again I didn't think I would turn it up to 18 either, but nothing bad has happened yet..
07-24-2007, 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by kevincnc
Ahh, very nice. Not sure I'll have the ***** to turn mine up to 21 though. Then again I didn't think I would turn it up to 18 either, but nothing bad has happened yet..
07-24-2007, 06:16 AM
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I should be getting the one I ordered from SFR this friday.
http://speedforceracing.com/products...wastegates.php
I sooo wish I had done a dyno run back before I tore the car apart.
http://speedforceracing.com/products...wastegates.php
I sooo wish I had done a dyno run back before I tore the car apart.
07-24-2007, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by lart951
I have ran up to 23psi and drove the car hard for a week, actually I wanted to blow the engine, I was looking for a excuse to build another engine(had 3 spare motors) but as much abuse I have given my current motor still holds together.
07-24-2007, 09:30 AM
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I'll add a little here...
I have one of Danno's Wastegates - kind of...
When I was going through my financial "adventure" with him, I'd had enough, and told him I was returning everything - chips, FPR, WG (I had already installed the HG) - but before I did, I opened the wastegate. It didn't have a washer or shim - it had an extra spring inside.
My old one was actually in better shape than his rebuild, so I cleaned/rebuilt it, added a similar sized spring. I figured it was worth a try.
It did hold boost better - I saw a solid consistent 18 psi (as set on my EBC) at 5800 RPM. Problem is I think a 22 year old WG will still not be ideal. It does stick at times, causing uneven boost, but for $1.00 in parts I can't complain.
I have a 38mm TiAL on order from SFR. Looking forward to newer technology.
I have one of Danno's Wastegates - kind of...
When I was going through my financial "adventure" with him, I'd had enough, and told him I was returning everything - chips, FPR, WG (I had already installed the HG) - but before I did, I opened the wastegate. It didn't have a washer or shim - it had an extra spring inside.
My old one was actually in better shape than his rebuild, so I cleaned/rebuilt it, added a similar sized spring. I figured it was worth a try.
It did hold boost better - I saw a solid consistent 18 psi (as set on my EBC) at 5800 RPM. Problem is I think a 22 year old WG will still not be ideal. It does stick at times, causing uneven boost, but for $1.00 in parts I can't complain.
I have a 38mm TiAL on order from SFR. Looking forward to newer technology.
07-24-2007, 09:54 AM
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07-24-2007, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by lart951
Danno Nguyen from guru racing did sell the famous Ultimate guru wastegate which was a stock wastegate with a 1/4 of a inch washer.
07-24-2007, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by pk951
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