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Old 03-21-2007 | 05:39 AM
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Okay, so when I go to order the 951MAX chips to trade in my Guru chips at LR, I am asked what equipment is on my car.

Currently I have a stock K26/6 turbo, stock airbox, stock injectors, 3" full exhaust w/ no cat, dualport wastegate (though not installed yet). So, if I order chips for this setup, and then upgrade my turbo and/or install a MAF intake, will my chips need to be updated again? Or do these nex-gen chips that are out there now that are not as dependant on boost level able to live happily with different turbos and intakes? I would think not, seeing as how they ask for this info before ordering the chips...

How much, if needed, is it to reflash or trade-in 951MAX chips if I make these types of changes down the road?

(I emailed Russel this question, then figured I'd post too since others may be wondering the same thing)
Old 03-21-2007 | 05:44 AM
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Just to clarify, I am just wondering if I should wait on buying the chips for now since I would like to get a new turbo one of these days. I just want to know now if I'll have to swap out the chips as well when I do.
Old 03-21-2007 | 11:50 AM
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I think the chips were $250 and after you get you other mods you can have them redo your chips for $100
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I don't know if you will see enough improvements over your guru chips to justify the expense of swapping chips until you are doing upgrades. That being said, if I had chips weren't currently custom programed for my specific setup, I would be all over a set of Maxx951's.
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I think you have the option of paying more for free upgrades as well.

Easiest chips to tune that I've taken part in, with a piggyback. I helped a guy, over the phone, 2 data logs were emailed to me; discussed changes and using the built in calculator, the 3rd data log run and the car was done.
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I think you have the option of paying more for free upgrades as well.

Easiest chips to tune that I've taken part in, with a piggyback. I helped a guy, over the phone, 2 data logs were emailed to me; discussed changes and using the built in calculator, the 3rd data log run and the car was done.
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Also, with the new Maxtronic, you won't even need chips. Just email new maps back and forth via laptop/USB

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Originally Posted by danny951
Okay, so when I go to order the 951MAX chips to trade in my Guru chips at LR, I am asked what equipment is on my car.

Currently I have a stock K26/6 turbo, stock airbox, stock injectors, 3" full exhaust w/ no cat, dualport wastegate (though not installed yet). So, if I order chips for this setup, and then upgrade my turbo and/or install a MAF intake, will my chips need to be updated again? Or do these nex-gen chips that are out there now that are not as dependant on boost level able to live happily with different turbos and intakes? I would think not, seeing as how they ask for this info before ordering the chips...

How much, if needed, is it to reflash or trade-in 951MAX chips if I make these types of changes down the road?

(I emailed Russel this question, then figured I'd post too since others may be wondering the same thing)

Hey Danny,

A turbo or MAF upgrade is definitely a chip change. I would suggest waiting until you're ready to do the turbo upgrade if you plan to do it fairly soon. If you're current chips are running safely, save some dough.

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"New Product - 951MAX Booster

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Over the past few months several people have asked for a chip for a completely stock 951. These people may be in racing classes that don't allow other modifications, or simply want more performance without making any other modifications.

I decided to make a chip especially for you. The 951MAX DME I, or 951MAX Booster. This chip will provide better overall performance without any other upgrades. It will retain all factory safety features including overboost protection. Instead of the usual 7K rev limit, this chip will have the rev limit raised 300 rpm to 6780. Overboost protection will also be raised only slightly to allow higher performance.

This chip will be perfectly safe on any un-modified 951 running 89 Octane fuel or higher. Retail price for the Booster will be 199.00 USD, with a 30 Day Rennlist promotion at $149.00 USD.

Most of you top gear boost heads won't be interested in this, but people keep asking me about it, so I will provide it for them. If you want the best performance you can get out of a totally stock 951 without changing anything else, this is your chip. This is the DME chip only, you retain the stock KLR."
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lindsey buys old chips?? any kind?
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lindsey buys old chips?? any kind?
Lindsey has a chip trade-in program, and an upgrade program for current LR chip customers.

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Old 03-22-2007 | 01:45 AM
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Thanks Russell.

Um, so here's a question. What if I decide to just keep the car as-is and not upgrade my turbo or go the MAF route. Might be interesting to see what if any changes come from changing from my Guru chips to the 951MAX chips.
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Be sure to do before an after dyno runs if you do.
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Originally Posted by danny951
Thanks Russell.

Um, so here's a question. What if I decide to just keep the car as-is and not upgrade my turbo or go the MAF route. Might be interesting to see what if any changes come from changing from my Guru chips to the 951MAX chips.
I always welcome more dyno charts. I haven't gotten any in a while. Although running a chip tuned for a modified/high boost application against my chip aimed at the stock configuration isn't really fair to them. I'd rather see my chip against a stock chip in stock configuration.

That's why I give a 30 day money back guarantee. You've got 30 days to decide if you want it or not. If not, you get a refund. It's really that simple. Doesn't matter if you don't like the performance or your wife doesn't like you because you bought the chips. You tell me you don't want them and you get a refund. I don't take it personally and I don't ask questions. That's the service people have come to expect from me.

I just now saw above where you mentioned nex-gen chips. I won't proclaim my chips tune themselves, it doesn't work that way. Up until making the MAF chips for Lindsey just recently I hadn't made any drastic changes to the DME code proper. What I do is tailor the performance as precisely as possible to the power band of the engine, in conjunction with its configuration. One thing I see clearly is that while the computer is digital, the engine is not. The computer takes a handful of inputs and provides two outputs, fuel and ignition. That's it. It's an engine. It is not magic, chips are not magic.

I tune the digital computer to control the analog engine as best it can, the best way I can. But the bottom line is the chips 'appear' to keep everything constant over a wide array of conditions like temp/octane/boost changes is because I have mapped the chip a cell at a time to match a particular power flow per the configuration given. No more, no less.

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