philcav7

It looks like the new Innovative gauge is available. (I want a gauge to go into my A pillar pod).
I have heard a lot of great feedback about the LM1, any downsides/limitations to the LC1? It will offer the same accuracy and PC datalogging capabilities right?

Any comments or other suggestions for a wideband solution?

This is the kit I was looking to purchase.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...cat=262&page=1

Jake951

AEM has a very nice wideband unit with a gauge that will fit in the LoTek gaugepod: http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=67. Street prices are considerably lower than the MSRP shown here.

TRACKIN951

AEM for about $250
EBAY!!!

philcav7

I was originally going to get the AEM but I don't think it offers the datalogging that the Innovative will. It has a serial output but am not sure what its functionality is. Any AEM owners that can share some insight on this?

I don't really need datalogging but figured it would be easier to determine accurate A/F .

azmi951

Tech Edge. www.wbo2.com has a pc logger for $20 and can measure rpm, (3) 0-5volt inputs and (3) K-type thermocouples. I have my thermocouple on the EGT probe. the gauge is also very good IMHO.

2bridges

AEM has support forum..... I would be surprised if you cannot log from it.

http://forum.aempower.com/forum/index.php

just recieved my AEM wideband and truboost EBC today can't wait till it's warm enough to work in the shop!

hally

I'm a fan of the tech edge too, run the 2BO variant. www.wbo2.com You can log to a Palm Pilot also which I found really practical, sits nicely in the centre console. (Older Palms won't be able to keep up with the data at high RPM though, be careful about that, went back to using a laptop for WOT tuning)

azmi951

I have the 2A0 that I built from the kit. It is pretty easy if you have any electronics ability.

Porschefile

AEM widebands are nice because of the versatility in integrating with other components. There are lots of piggybacks and standalones (MAP ecu, E-Manage, AEM ems, etc) that support them so, it helps if you plan on doing any more in depth stuff in the future. The few times I've used them they work just fine and seem to be pretty accurate.

Jake951

There are two outputs you can use for datalogging. The first is the serial output which will give you a running stream of A/F values. I don't use it, however. The second is an analog 0-5 volt signal that can be converted to A/F in an external datalogging program. I use the analog signal as an input to my Vitesse datalogger so I can log A/F along with the other parameters that I get from the Vitesse software.

philcav7

It's refreshing to learn that the AEM is still a possibility.

I anticipate a Lindsey or Vitesse piggyback with MAF when I upgrade the turbo.

So can I get the AEM and connect directly to my laptop (using a serial/USB cable) and buy some datalogging software? Then I will have additional capabilities with the addition of the piggyback down the road.

I guess I will contact AEM and see what the suggest.

Thanks for the help!

Perry 951

Another vote for the TE-WBO2. I built the 2A0 and added the 1 meg card (2A1). I also wired up the trigger button and status LED's to the LD02 display so I don't have to fiddle with it in the glovebox. One of my favorite gagets.

azmi951

It can also simulate the stock Narrow Band (NB) to a much more accurate degree than the stock O2 sensor as well as fooling it by programming the offset on the NB to a richer or leaner condition. The LA1 and LD1 displays have digital RPM displays which I find useful for checking the gauge.

I also have one for the Chevelle but I think I will upgrade to the dual sensor model some time in the future.

TRP951

doe techedge have a US dist?

Raceboy

I'd strongly recommend VEMS wideband+EGT kit as it has datalogging, rpm, boost, programmable outputs (NBo2 etc) and all that in one 52mm case with user defined colours (both case and display numbers separately WB and EGT). Accuracy is tested many times for example with Motec kit and it performed just the same (both accuracy and speed)
Here: http://shop.vems.hu/catalog/product_...3272d1e8ff8e9c