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Originally Posted by hot-J
Can anyone that is currently running a GT turbo post thier mods, and dyno graphs? A few people have responded they have them, lets see how benificial they are on our cars. Eventhough we ran alitttle off topic here, this has proven to be an interesting thread.
Also, there are several videos of a 951 on youtube/streetfire with a GT30 or 35 doing runs and a boost vs. rpm. I think he got full boost about 4K
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
So Porschefile what in your opinion is the most efficient turbo to run on a stock 2.5 951? Efficient in this case means the best compromise of power and early spoolup.
300-350rwhp - Gt3071R .63 or .82
350-400rwhp - Gt3071R .82
350-450rwhp - Gt3076R .63 or .82
400-500rwhp - Gt3076R .82 exhaust minimum for ~500+rwhp
500-600rwhp - Gt3582R .82 minimum
600-650rwhp - Gt3582R .82 min or 1.06, T3/T67 .82+ minimum (aka Super 75)
After countless hours of charting out compressor maps, examining other people's results, etc I've come to the conclusion that a Gt3076R with a .63 or .82 exhaust is the perfect balance for most of our needs. The 3071R would be an excellent choice as well.
Up to around ~400rwhp a .63 hotside should be fine, though much above that and it will be too small and generate alot of backpressure so you will see minimal hp gains. A .63 can still support over 400rwhp, though not efficiently and you will have to run alot of boost to do it. Judging by what I've seen from the few using Gt3076r's on our stock 2.5l's (Edman951 for example), most seem to have 1bar @ ~3k with a .63. With a .82 it couldn't possibly be worse than 3.5k for 1bar, and IMO that isn't laggy at all considering the power level. It all depends on what kind of powerband you want. I'd personally rather sacrifice 300-500rpm spool with a .82 and be able to easily push 400-450rwhp without running so much boost because a powerband of 3.5-6.5 or 3.5-7k is perfectly useable for my tastes.
Any of the bigger turbos like the Gt35r, Super 65, Super 75, etc really shouldn't be running anything less than a .82. Anyone can argue all they want, but at the point that you have a 61-67mm turbo then you better damn well be looking for at least 500+rwhp or it's all just a waste.
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"600-650rwhp - Gt3582R .82 min or 1.06, T3/T67 .82+ minimum (aka Super 75)"
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But great info Porschfile!!!
Some tuners you might be getting nervous though![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
And 18psi by 4,100 and with my newly purchased 951MAX chips, might be able to drop that some and run to 7K. But I will play it safe at first and keep an eye on the EGT's.
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But great info Porschfile!!!
Some tuners you might be getting nervous though
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And 18psi by 4,100 and with my newly purchased 951MAX chips, might be able to drop that some and run to 7K. But I will play it safe at first and keep an eye on the EGT's.
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Well don't get me wrong, But a 16V head is in it self a superior design. And sure our stock head is not perfect. It has issues, but like you said, good tuning and the right hardwere goes a long ways in the quest for power and reliability. IMO our engines are well suited for turbocharging. With its oversquare design, they can produce alot of torque. The limiting fator has always been the valve train and oiling system. but that is a cooky for another day.
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Originally Posted by hot-J
My neighbor has a supra single turbo with a t78 turbo kit, and the freakin turbo is the size of my head.
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"Why use such a large turbo and create unnecessary lag, when a much smaller turbo with a slightly larger hotside can still make some big numbers while being more responsive."
Cuz I got talked into it!!!![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
GO BIG OR GO HOME!!!! LOL
Cuz I got talked into it!!!
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GO BIG OR GO HOME!!!! LOL
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Originally Posted by toddk911
It has been, and continues to be proven, that hot spots and pre det. are issues of poor tuning annd not motor/head designs.
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Cuz I got talked into it!!! ![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
GO BIG OR GO HOME!!!! LOL
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GO BIG OR GO HOME!!!! LOL
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I believe the stock Greddy T78, at least in the Supra's application, comes with a 14cm2 housing which is apparently about equal to a 1.02ar housing!
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Yes, Fishey FTW!
Garrett T25-45
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Garrett T25-55
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Garrett T25-60
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Garrett T25-60
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Garrett T3-40
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Garrett T3-45
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Garrett T3-50
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Garrett T3-60
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Garrett T3-Super 60
Garrett T25-45
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Garrett T25-55
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Garrett T25-60
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Garrett T25-60
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Garrett T3-40
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Garrett T3-45
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Garrett T3-50
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Garrett T3-60
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Garrett T3-Super 60
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Now the common mitsu turbos
Mitsubishi TD04 09B
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Mitsubishi TD04 13G
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Mitsubishi TD04 15G
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Mitsubishi TD04H 18T
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Mitsubishi TD05 14B
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Mitsubishi TD05 14G
![](http://not2fast.wryday.com/turbo/maps/td05-14g.gif)
Mitsubishi TD05 16G large
![](http://not2fast.wryday.com/turbo/maps/td05-16glarge.gif)
Mitsubishi TD05 16G small
![](http://not2fast.wryday.com/turbo/maps/td05-16gsmall.gif)
Mitsubishi TD06 17C
![](http://not2fast.wryday.com/turbo/maps/mitsu-td06-17c.jpg)
Mitsubishi TD06 20G
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Mitsubishi TD06 20g
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Mitsubishi TS04
Mitsubishi TD04 09B
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Mitsubishi TD04 13G
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Mitsubishi TD04 15G
![](http://not2fast.wryday.com/turbo/maps/td04-15g.gif)
Mitsubishi TD04H 18T
![](http://not2fast.wryday.com/turbo/maps/td04h-18t.gif)
Mitsubishi TD05 14B
![](http://not2fast.wryday.com/turbo/maps/td05-14b.gif)
Mitsubishi TD05 14G
![](http://not2fast.wryday.com/turbo/maps/td05-14g.gif)
Mitsubishi TD05 16G large
![](http://not2fast.wryday.com/turbo/maps/td05-16glarge.gif)
Mitsubishi TD05 16G small
![](http://not2fast.wryday.com/turbo/maps/td05-16gsmall.gif)
Mitsubishi TD06 17C
![](http://not2fast.wryday.com/turbo/maps/mitsu-td06-17c.jpg)
Mitsubishi TD06 20G
![](http://not2fast.wryday.com/turbo/maps/td06-20g.gif)
Mitsubishi TD06 20g
![](http://not2fast.wryday.com/turbo/maps/mitsu-td06-20g.jpg)
Mitsubishi TS04
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