reno808

yes sir i was thinking of that. Or with all that work they should of gone with a custom hood! Instead of hacking it up.

testarossa_td

I imagine this is a development car so it will go through this that and the other as far as changes before and if they even decide it is worth their time.....and my bet is they will realize like so many that it is not. But it will give them some good press in Porsche® circles. Panorama, Christophorus...Rennlist™

944J

what's the point of 370HP when you can do it with a vitesse upgrade to a stock engine?

333pg333

Because they can, plus if it's doing 370hp (in development) at approx 13psi what do you think it's going to do at 15, 18, 21 psi????? Sure it's expensive but imagine the sound it makes at full noise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Duke

Yeah, all engine's aren't built with max hp in mind. That engine is obviously built for ultimate powerband, more like a 996TT.

Assuming all things alike it should produce in the neighbourhood of 389 hp @ 1.0 bar, 428 hp @ 1.2 bar and 467 hp @ 1.4 bar.

Duke

..but I'm not sure how far I would take it using those stock machined pistons!

"Gearbox has to be adapted for the rotated engine", wonder if they did anything else than cut, rotate and weld the transtube flange?

DFASTEST951

Wow, finally a car that cost more than mine...but no power!

DrRon

Nice that this was picked up - we did not take any pictures, but the car was sitting next to ours at the Zandvoort days. Very nicely done S2, engine tilted to make room for the turbo's on the left hand side. They are not big turbo's, no markings on them, cilinders 1 and 4 tie into a turbo as well as 2-3 - engine mounts changed, as well as the housing. Inlet manifold looked nicer in reality than in the picture. Street power is one thing (remember that we have the real crappy 98 Euro unleaded here, that is probably closer to 93 at the pump), supposed to be making an easy 420 horses in race-trim - presume that means about equivalent to a GT3 - but lots of potential because they have not done a lot of dyno work yet - probably because all the other cars they brought (996 turbo, two Caymans/Caymen with *very* nice engines ). Which brought me to the question - *why*??? And the answer is "because we can"....

Oh btw - it was pushed on to the trailer, and was never started, not once, during any of the three days, so it never made a sound.

MPD47

Power under the curve. I'm willing to garuntee this car flows significantly more on the top end than most on rennlist and the curve is as flat as any LS1.

944J

I don't know? How much do you think? It just doesn't seem like its money wisely spent when powerhaus gets 600hp from a s2 engine or you can buy v8's that give 500hp out of the box. It's like beating a dead horse.

944J

for that much money it should reach 500hp.

what difference does power under the band make for racing results? wouldnt it be applicable to tracks with more curves and less long straight aways?

944J

so that black powerhaus 944t is yours? now that's a nice 944

MPD47

Powerhaus is overpriced for what you get.

And most of us spend our time at tracks that, you know, have curves. Power under the curve is more important than peak numbers for everyone other than dyno queens.

pete95zhn

Peak hp is one thing and useful torque is another...the new twin-turbo BMW engine I mentioned earlier produces 400Nm ( that's 295 lb-ft for those who still use horse-carriage units,suspensions and engines...three hits out of three when spoken about Corvettes... ) between 1300 and 5000 rpm.

So,if that 9ff engine has torque curve just close to BMW's,peak hp is secondary issue.

IMHO driveability overruns bragging rights. And discussing about V8 conversions is irrelevant here,the main subject was supposed to be twin turbo vs single,and is there any sense whatsoever doing that....

BTW,the colour scheme of that car is pretty impressive.

944J

I agree, but they provide a service that not many do, correct or can you get the same thing elsewhere for less?

Yep, thats why the ls1 seems like a good idea