Vitesse Turbo Cost
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Originally Posted by jimbo1111
POR951TURBO: There is a big difference between your dyno chart and RKD's. Even though your running the same turbo compressor The hot sides are totally different. Yours is a typical stage 3. Your numbers at 18psi are very similar to many turbos running a stage 3. Don't expect miracles. Your A/F isn't that bad. You can tune an extra 15 whp with a better A/F. RKD is running a much larger turbine. It shows in the spoolup verses your turbo. Your car is breaking traction because of the sudden rush of torque ( small turbine). Look at the tourque peak on both charts. Your turbo will not produce numbers like RKD's.
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Originally Posted by fast951
POR951TURBO, did you include the price of the chips in your kit? Did you include the dyno time and cost needed to tune your car? When done, please add up all of the above - time is money!!!
While at it, include the time you spend fine tuning when the outside temps change... Now, let's talk about the price!
When you are done tuning, please post a chart with "the boost curve"!!!
While at it, include the time you spend fine tuning when the outside temps change... Now, let's talk about the price!
When you are done tuning, please post a chart with "the boost curve"!!!
2. No paid dyno time yet. That chart was free
3. To tune I do a datalog and send my log to Lindsey for help with tunning
4. Yep, still at $1900
Still happy with not spending $3700 for a turbo package.
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Kevin,
Just out of curiosity, do you have a Dyno chart for after it was tuned etc?
Hell for the money spent i'll take 300rwhp. The last time I asked, people said it would cost $2500 to get to 300rwhp.
Just out of curiosity, do you have a Dyno chart for after it was tuned etc?
Hell for the money spent i'll take 300rwhp. The last time I asked, people said it would cost $2500 to get to 300rwhp.
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Wes, I will soon. My car was down for a bit doing the interior as you saw. I wish I could have taken you for a ride while you were down. You would have been a believer.
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Mike, my weekends are filling up. This weekend we are headed to Michigan to pick up a parts car and next is Hershey. Any time after that would be good. I'm going to try to get to the dyno the last weekend of this month.
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Originally Posted by por951turbo
1. Mafterburner can use existing chips if not Vitesse or Guru.
2. No paid dyno time yet. That chart was free
3. To tune I do a datalog and send my log to Lindsey for help with tunning
4. Yep, still at $1900
Still happy with not spending $3700 for a turbo package.
2. No paid dyno time yet. That chart was free
3. To tune I do a datalog and send my log to Lindsey for help with tunning
4. Yep, still at $1900
Still happy with not spending $3700 for a turbo package.
SUPER 61 TURBOCHARGER SERIES
Code: LR-SUPER61
Price: $1,175.00
MAFTERBURNER MAF CONTROL
Code: LR-MAFBUR-001
Price: $499.00
Lindsey stage II MAF
Code: LR-951-MAF-2
Price: $599.00
Guru Chips
Price: $ 325.00
HIGH FLOW INTAKE MANIFOLD FOR 951 (255CFM @ 28")
Code: LR-951-IM-1
Price: $1,099.00
BOSCH "HV" FUEL PUMP 944 / 951
Code: LR951-BOSCH-FP
Price: $169.95
3" 944 EXHAUST SYSTEM
Code: LR-944-EXH-3
Price: $339.00
944 Turbo T-304 Stainless Steel Primary Pipe Header Only
Code:944THED
Price: $1,095.00
SFR 3" Downpipe
Price: $ 349.00
Total: $ 5649.00
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Originally Posted by lart951
Kevin, I am trying to follow you , but you can not assume that you are getting that level of power just because the super 61 turbo. You need to take into account all the other engine upgrades that you have done.
SUPER 61 TURBOCHARGER SERIES
Code: LR-SUPER61
Price: $1,175.00
MAFTERBURNER MAF CONTROL
Code: LR-MAFBUR-001
Price: $499.00
Lindsey stage II MAF
Code: LR-951-MAF-2
Price: $599.00
Guru Chips
Price: $ 325.00
HIGH FLOW INTAKE MANIFOLD FOR 951 (255CFM @ 28")
Code: LR-951-IM-1
Price: $1,099.00
BOSCH "HV" FUEL PUMP 944 / 951
Code: LR951-BOSCH-FP
Price: $169.95
3" 944 EXHAUST SYSTEM
Code: LR-944-EXH-3
Price: $339.00
944 Turbo T-304 Stainless Steel Primary Pipe Header Only
Code:944THED
Price: $1,095.00
SFR 3" Downpipe
Price: $ 349.00
Total: $ 5649.00
SUPER 61 TURBOCHARGER SERIES
Code: LR-SUPER61
Price: $1,175.00
MAFTERBURNER MAF CONTROL
Code: LR-MAFBUR-001
Price: $499.00
Lindsey stage II MAF
Code: LR-951-MAF-2
Price: $599.00
Guru Chips
Price: $ 325.00
HIGH FLOW INTAKE MANIFOLD FOR 951 (255CFM @ 28")
Code: LR-951-IM-1
Price: $1,099.00
BOSCH "HV" FUEL PUMP 944 / 951
Code: LR951-BOSCH-FP
Price: $169.95
3" 944 EXHAUST SYSTEM
Code: LR-944-EXH-3
Price: $339.00
944 Turbo T-304 Stainless Steel Primary Pipe Header Only
Code:944THED
Price: $1,095.00
SFR 3" Downpipe
Price: $ 349.00
Total: $ 5649.00
The chips are ape stage two that a lister sold me for 40 bucks.
The intake does nothing with out a cam and head work, but move the power band to the right. This fact alone makes the spoolup even more impressive.
The header is a factory replacement proven to not increase performance. GHL will tell you this. I bought because mine were cracked and it was cheaper then buyer the factory parts.
Not sure a bigger fuel pump would add performance. It just doesn't run out incase I decide to run more boost.
As for the exhaust, who doesn't have one. John didn't mention any of the other upgrades or prove any of the boost claims with any of his charts. Are you telling me that those car are all bone stock with none of the other stuff?
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Originally Posted by WesM951
Lart,
The fact is, he didn't buy all the parts directly from LR. So all the prices you listed may not be valid.
The fact is, he didn't buy all the parts directly from LR. So all the prices you listed may not be valid.
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Wes: I don't think we need to start looking at what the E-bay prices might possibly be for parts when making comparisons. We are talking about the kit that John sells on his site. The only realistic way to compare is based on new retail prices. Hell, somebody may have inherited a Vitesse kit sometime, or gotten one for Xmas, then we would have to start comparing it as a free upgrade right.
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I want all to know that I'm not arguing the fact that the Vitesse stuff isn't good. If you can afford the kit, you will get something that you can bolt on and be pretty close with the tuning. I myself, like to play with the tuning and can't afford that kit. So there I am just trying to prove the point that it can be done for cheaper. I thing the majority on this board are in the same boat as I.
I'm still waiting to see dyno charts with boost graphs. Until then I don't believe any of the numbers thrown out here.
I'm still waiting to see dyno charts with boost graphs. Until then I don't believe any of the numbers thrown out here.