No, you misunderstand. The part about the 911 guys saying "I WANT ONE OF THOSE", that's a pipe dream.

 

I know a few guys that own both a 911 and a 951. The 951 is the track car for each....

 

LOL, oh ok. I was like "what is he talking about????"

 

Deitz, how dare you accuse todk911 of smoking drugs. Just check his picture does he looks like a drug addict to you? Btw he is on the left side of the pcit.

 

Someday I'll be the guy with the '06 Cayman in the driveway,the '86 951 on the trailer, and the wife's '02 Cayenne towing it. Like in 2020. Now maybe I'm the one smoking something.

(I can see Lart firing up Photoshop as he reads this)

 

Deitz, I was going to do it, but iam going to the dyno in a few minutes. Today is my b-day and I am installing some new gizmos in my car. Brb later for fun and to post dyno graph as well.

 

He guys 965 c2 turbo 558 hp just 2 valves one turbo - 60 -200 km/h a little bit quicker than CBR900 RR Fireblade.
Time 0 - 200 8.5 seconds...

Why was no one else in F1 using 5 valves per cylinder than Yamaha?
Let us see oh no one did not Ferrari, not Honda, not Mercedes (sorry Illmor Swiss), ...

 

Yeah, but how many people track 951s because they give similar performance but at a MUCH lower cost than a 911. A 951 is basically a disposable track car. You can't even get into a 911 for less than about $15k, and one that will be comparable in power / performance to a 951 will cost you closer to $20k.

 

Exactly. I love my 951 and I intend to spec race it when I get out of school. But, it is no well prepared 911. It has a 2.5L water-cooled wet-sump engine with a balance shaft. I happen to drive it without much regard to whether it gets balled up or not for that very reason. Sorry.

 

Giving an example of a 2-valve, turbo car vs. a crotch rocket is like claiming you have a larger ***** because you wear italian leather shoes... that doesn't really mean anything in theory.

Give me an example of a team using a 2-valve head. All the one's you listed used 4-valve heads. 5-valve trials have had some good effects in some reacing application and some street applications, but the staggered sizes, staggered flow and shear packaging difficulties don't drive all engineers to try them. Yamaha isn't quite a prime example of F1 technology's forefront.

Bottom-line to your example... none of those teams use a 2-valve head.

No, actually he isn't. I don't mean to be too abrupt, but the porting and polishing isn't of the combustion chamber, it's of the ports leading to it. You want laminar flow from the infinity, to the combustion chamber. Once it gets into the chamber, you want squish, tumble, and sheer turbulence for as pure a distribution as you can manage, and for flame-front expansion and propogation.

 

HAPPY BIRTHDAY you son of a bitch!

 

I just wanted to give the idea how fast this 2valve single turbo can be.

With your answer you're a bit off topic?

You copied that with Yamaha - they announced we blow away everybody in F1 but they're gone without any good result.

 

Yeah, I think we're both a little off topic, no? I don't think we're hurting anyone though

I copied what with Yamaha? They can announce all they want to, but the fact stands that Ferrari spends more than 3 times what any other team put's into their cars. That's why they rent out a couple of their motors to the tune of $10million per season including accompanying Ferrari technicians. The fact stands that BMW has put more effort into their motors than any other single aspect of their car. Yamaha doesn't hold a candle to the billions those teams have invested into their cars.

"Speed costs money... how fast do you want to go?"

 

I think the big dog in town in F1 will be Honda. They will be the team to look out for as far as sheer hp is concerned. Ofcourse it takes a complete package to win.
BTW, the Ferrari 355 did have 5 valves per cylinder, 3.5 with 5 valves. That is how they got their designation.
Raj

 

I agree - how many friggin times does Honda have to put its foot up the *** of the Gordon Murrays of the world to get some respect??????

Witness 1988 - Japanese boot directly up BMW's tailpipe - just like most krouts, they couldn't get the job done wiithout high boost.