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Old 02-02-2006, 10:30 PM
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Default To ease the pain of torsion bar replacement, has anyone ever...

... put a hole in each side like on a 968 (or 911) so you can remove / replace the torsion bars - without dropping the tranny, etc.???

I have a street legal track car, and I'd consider doing it if it's been done before. Anybody with some experience? TIA
Old 02-02-2006, 10:59 PM
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I've seen a guy do it for his track car. Said he could re-index them in something like half an hour.

seems like a bloody good idea, and he'd done it nice and clean. Sure there was a hole, but it looked OK. Best bet woudl be run your exhaust out the holes, jsut to make them look like they belong
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IMO, it isn't nearly as difficult as people make it out to be. It isn't a half hour job, but it also isn't a multi day job.

If it was a beater looking track car and you were in a series that didn't allow coilovers (Spec 944), it would definitely make sense to cut a hole as you might do the job fairly often.
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Thanks,
I haven't decided how I would cover the hole. I'll might make a trip to the hardware store to see anything there might work...

A friend suggested that I get two of the gas tank filler "doors" from a Chevy pickup truck and graft them onto the car. I guess that I'd have a hybrid then!!
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Don't cut holes in your car! There is a procedure (use the search feature) recently posted on how to remove/re-index torsion bars one side at a time without dropping the whole carrier. I did it the hard way (dropping the whole carrier) myself in my garage with hand tools in a weekend. I could have done it in a day but I removed and reinstalled new bushings while I had it apart (the old bushings were "fused" to the metal). Clarks's garage lays out the whole procedure. You do not have to drop the transmission to remove the t-bars. Plus, once you get the t-bars set, you probably won't need to change/re-index them on a regular basis.
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I did it one side at a time. The author of these procedures is Chuck Moreland. Search. I found it easier than every one says it is. Of course the one side I did first took longer than the other because like anything else once you do it once you can do it better and faster next time.
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To ease the pain of torsion bar replacement, has anyone ever...consumed mass quantites of beer?....yes

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I would echo Alpine951...use the Moreland procedure! Working alone it was a one day process....

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Here you go. The other two parts are linked in this thread.

"Moreland Procedure"
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I did incorporate Chris's technique when I did my T bars and try to incorporate this feature into any time I am out in the garage getting intimate with my Car.
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I'd give it a difficulty rating of 4 1/2 beers.
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1 SIDE AT A TIME! its not that hard, first side took me like 2 hours and I got the torsion bar out of the second side in under 20 minutes. Its really not that hard, give yourself 5-6 hours and 9-10 rolling rocks nd your set!
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Yes you can cut a hole in the car and make it look good. We used a hole saw so we could save the cut. Then tack weld a stud on the back side in the middle of the cutout (where the hole is and you can tack the front side of the hole and sand to make the hole flush) tack a few studs on the back side of the kick panel, one on each side of the hole. Get a piece of thin aluminum stock, put the cutout back in place drill the 3 holes run down the nuts and you have a flush removeable hole. ( Touch up paint as needed). Works well when you need to reindex or replace bars often. Just my 2 cents hope it helps.
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If you plan on removing your T-Bars often enough to require an access hole in your sheetmetal, perhaps you should consider deleting the T-Bars and go with a full coil over set-up.
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Originally Posted by Bill
If you plan on removing your T-Bars often enough to require an access hole in your sheetmetal, perhaps you should consider deleting the T-Bars and go with a full coil over set-up.

I saw that one coming...holes aren't required


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