My 951 vs. an E46 M3
#31
Originally Posted by SamGrant951
I havent run a E46 although 2-3 E36's. The best one was last summer - nice, clean M3 coupe pulls up next to me at a redlight, we both are at the front of the pack admiring each others red cars. We both hit it when it flashes green and immeaditely after I launch my intercooler pipe blows off with a loud bang - car rolls across intersection dead and I pull into empty lot to pop the hood and retighten clamp. lol - Im sure it was funny to watch, all I could do was laugh.
How does your M stand up against the 951? My 328 is a ton of fun on the road, but doesn't hold a candle to the 951. How 'bout you?
#32
Danny,
Yeah, I paid attention coming home tonight on that stretch of road. About a mile after you pass the toll booth heading south there are some pretty hefty bumps on the road. Of course, I usually hit that about 60 MPH, so at 120 with a soft suspension it could be hairy!
It was kind of cool starting my week off Monday morning at 8:15 am seeing a 951 burning down the road. if I recall, the M3 was a black convertable. I wondered about it most of the day - if you took him or not.
NOTE TO SELF: Must get another 951!!!!! SOON!!!!!!
Scott
Yeah, I paid attention coming home tonight on that stretch of road. About a mile after you pass the toll booth heading south there are some pretty hefty bumps on the road. Of course, I usually hit that about 60 MPH, so at 120 with a soft suspension it could be hairy!
It was kind of cool starting my week off Monday morning at 8:15 am seeing a 951 burning down the road. if I recall, the M3 was a black convertable. I wondered about it most of the day - if you took him or not.
NOTE TO SELF: Must get another 951!!!!! SOON!!!!!!
Scott
#33
Originally Posted by Andial951
since the M3 you were racing was brand new (you say no plates) its possible he was holding back since his engine may not have been broken in yet.
#34
Well - I don't know why anyone would doubt this.
A chpped 1 bar 951 is very close to 300 crank HP. The porsche has MUCH, MUCH more torque - we won't go there.
So....
-BMW = 11.1 pounds/HP
-Porsche = 10.34 (conservative)
If he had lost a brief accel run with this E46, there would have been something wrong with his car - probably a leak between head and turbo on either side.
A chpped 1 bar 951 is very close to 300 crank HP. The porsche has MUCH, MUCH more torque - we won't go there.
So....
-BMW = 11.1 pounds/HP
-Porsche = 10.34 (conservative)
If he had lost a brief accel run with this E46, there would have been something wrong with his car - probably a leak between head and turbo on either side.
#35
Only tried my car up against a E39 M5 a couple of times,
I would beat him from a rolling start from 60km/h to 250km/h , by a car length or so ..
The M5 is quicker off the line though , but the 951 would catch up fast.
At this time my car only had minor modifications.. 15psi, a chip and exhaust IIRC.
Oh and this where done in a uphill straight with a incline of 5%..
I would beat him from a rolling start from 60km/h to 250km/h , by a car length or so ..
The M5 is quicker off the line though , but the 951 would catch up fast.
At this time my car only had minor modifications.. 15psi, a chip and exhaust IIRC.
Oh and this where done in a uphill straight with a incline of 5%..
#36
The 951's niche is that it is the best MID-RANGE car ever made (production)
If a Mustang is the best bottom-end and the IV Supra is the best top-end. You know what I mean.
Very unique qualities about the 951 like 8-valve head, turbocharger, 4 cylinder (big pistons), etc. - make it so.
If a Mustang is the best bottom-end and the IV Supra is the best top-end. You know what I mean.
Very unique qualities about the 951 like 8-valve head, turbocharger, 4 cylinder (big pistons), etc. - make it so.
#41
My stock chipped 951 would have easily beaten an E46 M3, as I was up there with the corvette coupes (C5's) in rolling acceleration. I love the M3's, but heavy (3450# coupe) & no torque compared to a chipped 951. My '85 951 made 250/314 to the ground.
#42
I ran one last year.
A beautiful blue one, it was a friendly race. We kind of started off slowly from 1st and then got into it in 2nd and through 3rd. I was about 1 car up on him especially in 3rd with the boost on. It was pretty close but I was definitely a little faster.
#43
So a 86' 951 k26/6 with Vitesse chips, Tial, set to 17psi should hang with an E46 M3?
Tonight I raced a brand new 05/06 330i and he stayed within two or three car lengths back all the way to around 120. I was slowly pulling but it was still pretty fast.
Maybe something isn't right with my car?
Tonight I raced a brand new 05/06 330i and he stayed within two or three car lengths back all the way to around 120. I was slowly pulling but it was still pretty fast.
Maybe something isn't right with my car?