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Old 12-18-2005, 12:35 AM
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Question "HELP" 4 The 951 Experts?

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951 1987 type 352 (NON-S)

Symptoms:
- Headlights do not rise nor does the orange light on the switch turn on when switched on
- Driver side and passanger side window switch do not work
- Car will heat to between 2nd and 3rd white bar prior to the fan cooling

Probable reasons for symptoms:
- After I washed the car in an automatic car wash, the heating problem started.
A) I bleed and filled the resivor some change but not much

Drove the car December 12, 2005 did not operate the windows nor the lights

Tonight December 17, 2005
I started the car tonight the lights did not work nor did the windows. Went through the fuses, no problems, then the relays. I think the relays worked too. (limted 951 experince)
My Solution:
I am going to install a new D.M.E. relay!

What do you think I should do?
Old 12-18-2005, 12:58 AM
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I would start by Not replacing the DME relay. It sounds like an ignition switch problem. Try turning the key just a bit counterclockwise after you start the car. The electrical ignition switch is a common failure item. Some think it may be due to large key chains hanging.

As for the temp gauge, it could be a grounding issue. If you turn on the A/C does the temp drop and the fans come one.
Old 12-18-2005, 01:04 AM
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Yea, certain buttons when pressed make the temperature arm fluctuate.

The Ignition I guess work the key around a bit and see what it does. I changed the odometer gear prior to all of this. The odometer reset does not work at all but the odometer does.
Old 12-18-2005, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SchnellerUmsetzer
Yea, certain buttons when pressed make the temperature arm fluctuate.

The Ignition I guess work the key around a bit and see what it does. I changed the odometer gear prior to all of this. The odometer reset does not work at all but the odometer does.
Sounds like it could be a grounding issue for the gauge.

You actually don't wiggle the key, just a slight turn towards the off position, you should be able to feel it click back into the run position. If you don't start the car, and just turn the key to the run position, do the lights and windows operate?
Old 12-18-2005, 01:10 AM
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I did not try that I was too pissed to think of that!

I have a rule when I get pissed off I leave the car alone as to not damge anything elses!

Thanks!!
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Well, after I remembered that not unlike a chick that a **** turns on the headlights. Only this **** is horizontal to where you insert the key. The headlights worked!
YEA!

But

The windows switches still do not work. I checked the box under the hood and low and behold, G7 relay is missing. There is a nice square dust spot where is should be but other than that is gone. Yes, it made it out from under the hood past two 5200 series locks and is now gone. I am for sure that www.Vertexauto.com will have a spear to plug in.

Chicks and cars I do not know which one drives me crazier? I mean the fuse is good, but where the Relay should plug in there is a dust spot and no relay!
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Fixed!

After the light came up this morning, I reexamined my handy work last night. I determined that in my stupor about the lights that I unplugged G7 and pluged back in where G8 goes. Well, in US 951 G8 is not even necessary. Pluged in the relay back where it belongs in G7 and guess what the window switches work.

I broke both of my rules last night and showed my A$$ on reenlist.
- No drinking prior to or while working on the Porsche
No working on the Porsche when I am angry.
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Originally Posted by SchnellerUmsetzer
Fixed!

After the light came up this morning, I reexamined my handy work last night. I determined that in my stupor about the lights that I unplugged G7 and pluged back in where G8 goes. Well, in US 951 G8 is not even necessary. Pluged in the relay back where it belongs in G7 and guess what the window switches work.

I broke both of my rules last night and showed my A$$ on reenlist.
- No drinking prior to or while working on the Porsche
No working on the Porsche when I am angry.
Dont worry, weve all made boneheaded moves like that



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