RKD in OKC

You can mod up a Boxster S. RUF will put a 3.8 liter with x51 package, 381hp-306ftlb in a Boxster S for only $35,000. RUF claims it will pass a GT3.

After a year of trying to refamiliarize myself with my 89 951 with 350 rwhp and stock suspension I am still putting down slower lap times than I was in my stock 01 Boxster S. 5 years ago I was typically fast lap holder in my 88S 951 with 275 rwhp with adjustable swaybars and stiffer springs.

Willard Bridgham 3

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How come a 951 always has to be properly tuned/modified to leave other stock cars in the dust ,why don't we compare them stock to stock ?
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951s has 100 hp/liter stock, boxter s has 81 hp/liter stock.....how's that for stock-to-stock comparison.....

Give me the 35K for the ruf package and I'll go to Jon Milledge and get a 2.5 or 3 liter 951 turbo and again, leave the Boxter S in the dust.

jlturpin

I have owned both, had no problems with my Boxster S. It was a blast to drive, just shy on room. It had the Porsche Stainless Steel Sport Exhaust and sounded awesome, and would stop on a dime. It was also fun to power slide (controlled)

UDPride

not very good. you also have to count number of liters, number of cylinders, curb weight, balance, et al.

An Elise runs a 170hp 4-banger with no torque. An Elise would also humiliate a 217hp 944 Turbo all day and twice on Sundays on any track.

One must measure cars by their totality, not one piece to one piece. Im sure a Chevrolet Malibu could have more rear seat head room than a Rolls Royce Seraph. Doesnt mean the car is better (or worse) than a Seraph.

RKD in OKC

Yep, lot more to it than power to weight when you start wanting to turn. Stock to stock my Boxster S was much easier to drive at the limits around and thru turns than my 944 Turbo is. Interestingly the boxster does not have a 50/50 weight distribution. It's more like 35/65. The rearward bias just begged for power in the turns.

UK952

Price?


25k wont buy much boxster S but it would buy a nicely modded (for reliability as well as performance) 944t As long as you dont want to sell it you cant lose
Tony

pole position

In the US you can buy a Boxster S in the 25 k range , incl. Porsche pre-owned certification.

UK952

There were none close in the rennlist classifieds, but anyway you can get a lot of 944T for 25K. Rebuilt (and uprated engine) and lots of hours/spares to fix those niggles.
Tony

jimbo1111

The boxter has a better suspension design that the 951. The multilink suspension is far better.

Marks951

Well....for $20K I could have an awesome 951 that is STILL 17 years old or a Boxster.....granted there are a LOT of Boxsters compared to a few 951's, but dependable A/C, cruise, and top and a good engine sound sure do make up for a lot.

I like my 951 but a Boxster is looking pretty good. Besides, after replacing rod bearings, rebuilding a turbo and all the other "ought to do" stuff to the engine in a 951 one could have a Boxster engine rebuilt and have a few grand left over.

Marks951

A 2.5 or 2.7 liter Boxster is close to a 951 so a 3.2 should be awesome.

PorscheDoc

You do not need to drop the motor to replace the plugs, lol. A very DIY job.

PorscheDoc

OH, and the 2.5L puts down about 155-160 to the rear wheels, the 3.2 puts down about 230 to the rear wheels. That is tested many times on our mustang. They do corner very well, feels much more solid through the turns than my 951, but they feel slow. Granted it is a completely different power band being turbo. The boxsters do have the dreaded RMS issue, i just replaced one this week, it was pretty ugly. Some guys are on their 3rd RMS'. There are TSB's now that require a new tool which sets the RMS to a different depth, as well as replacing 7 bolts (case halve, and intermediate flange seal). On the other hand, the cars do not like to "not run" i guess you could say. They are pretty bulletproof besides the catastrophic engine failure seen in the 99's. Either it just blows up, or it keeps running. The pre 2000 cars had horrible top problems, once they failed, the dealer will replace every mechanical component of the top at once, which is about a 4k deal. Despite what many say, they are also very easy to work on. I think most boxster owners haven't had much experience working on their cars. If you can work on a 951, you can work on a boxster.

Drvn2fst

I bought my Boxster S a couple of months ago for $25 K and I have never had any second thoughts about it. It currently has 45 K miles on it and thanks to car fax has a great service record. I'm the third owner of this car. As for upgrades on a Boxster they are still few and far between. But I'm sure that will change because of the release of the Cayman S. Sooner or later certain people like myself are going to want to pep up their engines. Now, if I can just get John at Vitesse to design me a chip set.

CarsRGood

I think if you like the idea of a roadster - the 05+ 987S is the sweet ride. If you're somebody like me who just wants to go buy the car and drive it (don't want to wrench your car or spend time taking it to get wrenched) - its a no brainer. If you don't like the idea of driving a roadster - the visibility on the Box with the top up is pretty sucky and I'd probably go for a Cayman. No doubt your lightly modified 951 performs as you say, but there's more to it than that. Gotta actually go drive it to understand. Verrry nice combination of ride comfort and handling.