Ian Carr

Opened up the DME because it looked like it had been opened and my waste gate had been shimmed. Got it open and like suspected there is a aftermarket chip in there. Can some one tell me whos chip this is?:

951/85-87/2732A
Euro Products DME

Thats what was printed on the chip.

Thanks a head of time
-Ian

OriginalSterm

my guess would be europroducts

Ian Carr

Never even heard of them.. i just looked up on google and i guess they had a "chip set and waste gate shim kit" Cool i guess..?

David Floyd

I had a set of Europroduct chips about 5 years ago, not bad chips but nothing like the good chips of today (Vitesse)

Ian Carr

MY KLR chip is Vitesse ( thank you special tool )

hosrom_951

So you have a Europroducts DME and a Vitesse KLR? hmmm.....i don't like the sound of that, since every vendor sells a matched set of chips (both DME and KLR), ever considered contacting John on the issue of DME chips??

Jason_86_951

I would'nt worry too much about that. IIRC the only mod to the KLR chip is the overboost protection is altered.
The DME chip carries all the fuel maps.

hosrom_951

How about the timing? It is by the DME right??

Ian Carr

Don't worry about it

dirtyTurbo

Hi all. I found an old chip in an 87 951 with the same numbers as Ian's but from Vertex Automotive. I realize this discussion happened in 2005 but I punched the numbers in google and this is all that came up ^-^ Has anyone ever heard of Vertex Automotive or had experience with them? I figured I might as well put it in my car as Im still running the stock chips.

Rogue_Ant

Most likely an APE or Welt chip rip-off...

dirtyTurbo

Hmmm...rip off you say...not something id trust to make my car run rich enough to protect the headgasket with added boost?

Rogue_Ant

The old school chips (Welt & APE) both ran too lean in high RPMs. But just as importantly is ignition timing advance...
Without knowing whats on your chip, it is impossible to make an educated guess...
Personally, with the unknown chip, I would stay near stock boost (11-12psi).

toddk911

Yes, Vertex is a large parts vendor. I've ordered a lot from them. This would not be their chip, they just sold it.

Jeremy Himsel

Yup, they are Welt chips that were private labled for a few different companies. The installation instructions came from welt.