How do i find out what injectors i need?
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This is just getting ridiculous! How about you take a look at Ohm's law and then tell me you do not need resistors. Seeing as we have a 12V system with 5.5 ohm stock resistors, the stock injector system draws 2.18 amps. Now, if you go ahead and use a lower resistance injector then you will be drawing 4.29 amps!!! This is almost twice as much amperage, definitely enough to cook your DME!
Also, if Speed Force Racing, Anderson Motorworks, Linsey Racing, and Heritage Racing Inc all recommend not using resistors then it sure gives me a good reason NEVER to buy a single product from any of them. Thanks for the heads up.
Also, if Speed Force Racing, Anderson Motorworks, Linsey Racing, and Heritage Racing Inc all recommend not using resistors then it sure gives me a good reason NEVER to buy a single product from any of them. Thanks for the heads up.
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You might be right but the number of high end tuners and racers running the larger injectors without resistors is huge. I dont know of a reported failure, either.
So either the "definitely enough to cook your DME" statement is wrong or a lot of people have just been lucky.
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So either the "definitely enough to cook your DME" statement is wrong or a lot of people have just been lucky.
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Originally Posted by Matt H
You might be right but the number of high end tuners and racers running the larger injectors without resistors is huge. I dont know of a reported failure, either.
So either the "definitely enough to cook your DME" statement is wrong or a lot of people have just been lucky.
So either the "definitely enough to cook your DME" statement is wrong or a lot of people have just been lucky.
The point is it is not worth the risk. I have taken numerous electronics courses, and unless these tuners can not do simple math it should be obvious to them that twice the amperage is a definite risk. Maybe one of these tuners can chime in with their reasoning behind their non-use of resistors.
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If any of you want a professional opinion why not go to the nearest college or university and ask any electrical engineer? I assure you they will confirm this.
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badass951: Well, the LR website speaks for itself (regarding injectors and resistors). And the various other vendors also do the same, that is what i thought.
Jeremy: Thanks for the info
Matt H: I also came across the AFPR failing at times, i believe even NZ951 went from a AFPR to a 3 BAR one?
Jeremy: Thanks for the info
Matt H: I also came across the AFPR failing at times, i believe even NZ951 went from a AFPR to a 3 BAR one?
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Originally Posted by hosrom_951
badass951: Well, the LR website speaks for itself (regarding injectors and resistors). And the various other vendors also do the same, that is what i thought.
EDIT: I was only trying to help by the way, but if you want to ignore the scientific facts then that is your choice.
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Dont get me wrong badass, you are probably correct in the mathematics of this discussion. What I am saying is that the Titanic couldnt sink and it DID. All the theory and math in the world wont change the fact that you CAN run with larger injectors without the resistors. Will the DME fail? I have no clue but I do know that 100% of them didnt/havent.
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Originally Posted by hosrom_951
Andrew: Then explain to me why vendors such as Vitesse Racing, Speed Force Racing, Anderson Motorworks, Linsey Racing, Heritage Racing Inc ALL advised on installing either Siemens or Bosch injectors without resistors?
Heck several rennlsiters as well are "dropping in" Siemens injectors without resistors....
Why are you picking on ONE vendor and calling it a myth???? because you had a bad experience with them and start picking on them???
I asked a question regarding resistors and INJECTOR brand and you ended with a VENDOR claiming this and that...what the hell??
Heck several rennlsiters as well are "dropping in" Siemens injectors without resistors....
Why are you picking on ONE vendor and calling it a myth???? because you had a bad experience with them and start picking on them???
I asked a question regarding resistors and INJECTOR brand and you ended with a VENDOR claiming this and that...what the hell??
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Originally Posted by badass951
Also, if blip, Anderson Motorworks, blip, and blip all recommend not using resistors then it sure gives me a good reason NEVER to buy a single product from any of them.
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Ok, Im done now.
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"Seeing as we have a 12V system with 5.5 ohm stock resistors, the stock injector system draws 2.18 amps. Now, if you go ahead and use a lower resistance injector then you will be drawing 4.29 amps!!! This is almost twice as much amperage, definitely enough to cook your DME!"
Isn't the double amp draw with using lower resistance injectors only at WOT? The ratings are peak ampage draw, right? Just curious and trying to shake the rust off.
Isn't the double amp draw with using lower resistance injectors only at WOT? The ratings are peak ampage draw, right? Just curious and trying to shake the rust off.
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