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Hey thanks Sam Lin but I do think now I am going to save the money for the OEM wheels or even a lighter wheel. Plus Wheelenhancement has them for the early offset and I wouldn't have to buy spacers.
Also my Phone Dials are in great condiction so I really wouldn't have to paint them, I just do not like how they look plus I would like to get a 17" wheel.
Also my Phone Dials are in great condiction so I really wouldn't have to paint them, I just do not like how they look plus I would like to get a 17" wheel.
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The benefits from reduction of unsprung weight can not be overemphasized. The improvement in turn-in, rebound, and overall ride quality is dramatic even going to a much larger set of tires.
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Originally Posted by Matt H
This is probably caused by better scrub radius (offset) than weight.
I agree with what you say for turn-in 'only' if the offset had changed dramatically. The new CCW wheels (fronts) are 1-1/2" wider but still centered upon the same offset as the old wheels. I confirmed this by measurements both inside and outside prior to mounting. The added 1.5" is divided equally inside and out. I would think that the minor change in scrub radius would be negligible but maybe not, I'm certainly no expert. The rears are inset about 1/8" more with the added 1" wheel width on the inside. In the end, I feel the improvements in turn-in are attributed more to losing the Kumhos plus the benefit of lowering the initial response time it takes to get a lighter wheel/tire combo to start moving. The change in unsprung weight here was -13.5 lbs (R) and -10.5 lbs (F) per wheel; dropping 48 lbs is substantial.
I still say ride quality, rebound, and better braking response are directly effected by a reduction in unsprung weight in addition to the size and quality of the tire. I think anyone who has swapped out heavy wheels for a lighter set will agree to that one.
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Hehe, I agree with those that have said not to spend money. Ian, wheels are very simple, not likely to break down... hehe
I say get your turbo up and running again, and get yourself a little bit of a buffer so you can absorb and continue saving without going broke each time. Financial security is a good thing. Are the dials just not your flavor?
Does anybody know which are lighter: dials or D90's?
I say get your turbo up and running again, and get yourself a little bit of a buffer so you can absorb and continue saving without going broke each time. Financial security is a good thing. Are the dials just not your flavor?
Does anybody know which are lighter: dials or D90's?
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The change in unsprung weight here was -13.5 lbs (R) and -10.5 lbs (F) per wheel; dropping 48 lbs is substantial.
Although nearly impossible to know, tire weights have a role as well. Glad you are pleased that you dropped the Kumhos!
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Since you have an 85 Turbo, theres really no better route to go that to outfit it with a set of 16 inch Fuchs. You certainly arent going ot buy anything built better or built lighter for under $2-3K and since they only fit 86s, why not take advantage of the unique opportunity you have. They arent cheap, but find a straight set that needs a little TLC and you are golden.
Personally my wheel search would begin and end at the Fuchs considering your car.
Since you have an 85 Turbo, theres really no better route to go that to outfit it with a set of 16 inch Fuchs. You certainly arent going ot buy anything built better or built lighter for under $2-3K and since they only fit 86s, why not take advantage of the unique opportunity you have. They arent cheap, but find a straight set that needs a little TLC and you are golden.
Personally my wheel search would begin and end at the Fuchs considering your car.
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Fuchs are by far the lightest stock wheels for the 951. My 16x7/8" set weighed 15.5 & 16.5 lbs each.
Then I went with a set of 17x9" Turbo Twist replicas that weighed about 26 lbs APIECE !!! That's 10lbs per corner more than stock! The ride was HORRIBLE, the car would bounce around over bumps that were invisible before. The turn-in was sluggish and I had to manually Sawzall the steering when it hit bumps in the corners. Overall, the performance was lower than my stock wheels, even with the larger 255/40-17 tyres compared to the stock 205/55-16 and 225/50-16 sizes.
Then I got rid of those horrible wheels (even though they looked good) and went for no-compromizes performance. Got a set of 17x10.5/11.5" BBS 3-piece race-wheels that weighed much less, 17 & 18 lbs, barely heavier than my stock Fuchs wheels. With 255/40-17 and 275/40-17 R-compound tyres, they definitely are much gripper. As soon as I get some wider fenders, I'll use a 275/40-17 & 315/35-17 tyre combo.
Then I went with a set of 17x9" Turbo Twist replicas that weighed about 26 lbs APIECE !!! That's 10lbs per corner more than stock! The ride was HORRIBLE, the car would bounce around over bumps that were invisible before. The turn-in was sluggish and I had to manually Sawzall the steering when it hit bumps in the corners. Overall, the performance was lower than my stock wheels, even with the larger 255/40-17 tyres compared to the stock 205/55-16 and 225/50-16 sizes.
Then I got rid of those horrible wheels (even though they looked good) and went for no-compromizes performance. Got a set of 17x10.5/11.5" BBS 3-piece race-wheels that weighed much less, 17 & 18 lbs, barely heavier than my stock Fuchs wheels. With 255/40-17 and 275/40-17 R-compound tyres, they definitely are much gripper. As soon as I get some wider fenders, I'll use a 275/40-17 & 315/35-17 tyre combo.
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Danno i see what you are talking about. Getting the lighter wheel really does make alot more sence now. I like the Fuchs (i wish they maid them in 17's though) but if i was to buy Fuchs's I would paint them haha. Don't the Fuch's go for over 1k usualy for them in good condiction? Danno since you had the Fuchs what was the side wall flex like because of them being smaller? Could you feal it alot more than the BBS's or is it not that big?
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What is the most comprehensive website for rim information? I like a lot of Porsche rims enough to want them, but I want to know what is best besides FUCHS FUCHS FUCHS!! I already know about www.wheelenhancement.com, nice site for pictures and clarification but I'd like a little more information.