Carbon Fiber Strut tower Braces??
#16
Originally Posted by Matt H
Rich, I respectfully disagree. In fact, I would say that a non-triangulated bar is really not doing a whole lot. It may keep the towers from flexing seperately from each other (they are still flexing a bunch just not opposite of each other) but I dont think it adds much in the way of chassis stiffening.
Do you have a pic of the above triangulated bars? Dont recall ever seeing one.
Do you have a pic of the above triangulated bars? Dont recall ever seeing one.
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Originally Posted by 944 Fanatic
I was looking at that peice the other day Damian. Does anyone here use one of those? Comments?
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None of the 968 guys have tried it, I asked about a group buy no one was interested-although none of the BK dealers were offering a big discount. I'm going to order one for myself for Xmas.
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Originally Posted by Matt H
Rich, I respectfully disagree. In fact, I would say that a non-triangulated bar is really not doing a whole lot. It may keep the towers from flexing seperately from each other (they are still flexing a bunch just not opposite of each other) but I dont think it adds much in the way of chassis stiffening.
Do you have a pic of the above triangulated bars? Dont recall ever seeing one.
Here is 968TRS #1 originally. no triangulation
And after:
Here is Jason's car (#4)
#22
are those triangulation tubes integrated into the roll cage structure? Thats what it looks like... and if so... damn... thats a strong design.
As far as CF.. too brittle for this application. I have snapped carbon fiber kayak paddle sections, which I expect are subject to far less stress than a strut brace, not to mention the thermal strain that would be applied in an engine bay.
As far as CF.. too brittle for this application. I have snapped carbon fiber kayak paddle sections, which I expect are subject to far less stress than a strut brace, not to mention the thermal strain that would be applied in an engine bay.
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Do you know where it terminates? It looks like it is tied into the cage inside the cabin.
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Rich, are the first and second pictures you posted of the same car? It seems that those triangulation bars would be difficult to retrofit, especially so if incorporated into the roll cage.
Also, the individual throttle bodied intake manifold in the second pic - Anyone have any info on that? Looks like a very nice piece. The air filter is also in a unique place - I wonder how easily that could be incorporated in a 951? Is there more space in this area in a 968's engine bay?
David, I didn't realize that, thought it ran on the other side of the crossmember. Thanks for the info.
Also, the individual throttle bodied intake manifold in the second pic - Anyone have any info on that? Looks like a very nice piece. The air filter is also in a unique place - I wonder how easily that could be incorporated in a 951? Is there more space in this area in a 968's engine bay?
David, I didn't realize that, thought it ran on the other side of the crossmember. Thanks for the info.
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Rich, are the first and second pictures you posted of the same car? It seems that those triangulation bars would be difficult to retrofit, especially so if incorporated into the roll cage.
#28
that's the BK watever-they-call-it isn't it? I read (somewhere) a rant by some guy about how unnecessary it was. iirc, he'd measured the deflection that that piece is supposed to combat under track conditions and it was less than 0.001" or something.
EDIT: bummer, i can't find it.
EDIT: bummer, i can't find it.
Originally Posted by Damian in NJ
Why not stiffen up the bottoms as well?
Last edited by facboy; 12-16-2004 at 07:50 PM.
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I think that having all these anti-flex devices are indeed overkill if you have all the stock RUBBER bushings in your suspension setup. These race cars should have all monoball joints from the A-arm up to the strut mount / camber plates. There is no play. It all gets transferred to the chassis. Extra chassis stiffening is req'd.
I strongly feel it is a waste on a street car with stock rubber suspension bushings and street tyres.
I strongly feel it is a waste on a street car with stock rubber suspension bushings and street tyres.