C5Driver951

The 90 model wasn't offered in the US. From what I've read the 90 model had the horsepower of the 88S/89 model, but did not have the suspension or some of the other goodies. Additionally, it had cast wheels vs the forged club sports from the earlier models.

I've had two 89s and love them. The first was completely stock, and the latest has suspension upgrades. Great cars.

TurboTime

Just FYI here, year references cover the "model year not the calender year. Common motor industry practice that Porsche followed throughout 924/944/968 production. Model years always start in August of the preceding calender year: the 1978 model year, for example, ran from August 1977 to July 1978. The changes for a new model year were introduced after the factory shut-down for summer holidays". - Peter Morgan.

Morgan's book states that no 1990 models were imported directly into the US, but Canada got 144 1990 models imported and "RoW" (rest of world) saw 1089 imported. For the record, the US and Canada combined saw 1385 numbers in 1989 and 1333 RoW - thus the availability issue I was refering to in my previous post. 1988 S's are hard to find and command a high premium, but there are still 1989 models available in the US at reasonable prices. I'm not familiar with the availability of cars overseas. Slim, what was your experience when you acquired your car?

The rare car of our breed is the 944 Turbo Cab with only 625 total made - none imported to US.

Slim, your 1990 should have the 968 rear spoiler installed as stock I believe.

Another interesting fact is US cars called out for min 91RON, European called out for min 95RON fuel. So your car will have the performance advantage gained by the octane boost.

TurboTime

GOBOGIE

Mine has those!

GOBOGIE

Exactly!

Danno

Yeah, the real-estate and S&L crash that started in '86 pretty much wiped out the economy. Not many people had money in the late '80s to be buying $50K+ cars...

slim_boy_fat

Yes, and
M030
sunroof delete
10 speaker
sports electric leather seats
Air Con
and the usual LSD 9" rear rims 7.5" front etc etc

Its a nice buggy.

UK952

Mine doesn't have the Mo30 but the standard Boge/Sachs suspension used the same spring rates as the MO30 by 1990 All the other s features remained but I have a sunroof.
At 14 years old I would be looking at replacing/rebuilding the M030 anyway. Mine was replaced 2.5 years ago with standard shocks / techart springs, i am looking to replace it again soon (almost 50k mile since the last overhaul).
I believe A/C, 10 Speaker, Leather(front) Sports seats was standard by 1990. The 968 spoiler was also fitted. In the Uk I think only around 150 were sold (GT Purely Porsche) and the price was around £42,000 or $77,700 at todays exchange rates.
Tony

UK952

Forgot to add 1990 cars with no sunroof and factory M030 are extremely rare (unique?) or possibly confined to the North

Tony

Thom

That is possible considering some export markets like the UK (*), but in Germany the 10 speaker sound system and the sports seats - let alone leather seats - remained as options until the end of production in 1991.
Sure thing is AC, S4 front brakes and LSD were standard on all 250bhp 951.

I follow rather closely cars for sale in mainland Europe and as for the sunroof, I have only seen one MY90 951 that did have it. However I'm yet to see a MY91 951 that does NOT have it ...


(*) E.g. all MY91 S2 ordered by the french importer had both leather seats and LSD.

UK952

Hi Thom
Mine was registered in 90 (August IIRC) does tht make it a 91MY?
Over here it is very rare for bridge spoiler cars not to have one and most of the last year of rubber spoiler models had one. I think it is a UK thing though as all the na cars came with the 'lux' package (hence turbo, s2, and lux became the descriptions) sunroof, electric mirrors and windows.
Only the 88S (mostly silverrose but some in other colours) cars came as standard without a sunroof here.
Tony

Thom

Hi Tony
The VIN of your car will make it either a MY90 (ZLN) or a MY91 (ZMN), not the date of the first road registration.
Interestingly, I know of a MY91 951 that was delivered in May 1990 (!).

In France and Germany, some '89 951 have the sunroof, others have not. I haven't noticed yet which of the two populations is dominant, though.
Some silver rose turbo S were also delivered with the sunroof down here. Btw, some had the simple sound systems, others the 10 speaker sound system.

I think I need an aspirin

meek

Hi Tony. The 1990 UK Spec Turbos have all the M030 goodies except the Koni adjustables. If a '90 turbo has the M030 option, it only refers to the addition of the Konis. Roll bars, torsion bars etc are all identical to the '88S0 and '89 cars. I only found this out when I acquired a '90 price/options list. Guess that is why very few have the Knonis as the Boges and springs were of the same rating, only non adjustable? Adam.

puyi

Not sure you are right. I know that there was some changes for the roll bars and the torsion bars. But I don't remind whether it was on MY 90 or 91 and whether it applied on M030 option or not.

For sure a MY90 M030 less has had standard brakes (ie 298mm disks), as the M030 was equiped with 928 S4 brakes. (304 mm)

Puyi

UK952

I think the damper rates are close to the konis on soft, IIRC somewhere in the workshop manual the Koni's as adjustable for wear,
Tony

Thom

Stéphane,
If you read back meek's post, you will notice he's refering to UK cars in particular.
Anyway, there was no changes on ARB between late '89 951 and later 951 : all had 26.8 mm front and 16 mm rear, M030 did not feature any specific ARB size on later 951.