AEM EMS in a 944/951/952
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Originally Posted by Dark Lightning
Great work, thanks.
AEM Part Number 35-2610, "PEMS Connector Kit 1010/1020", $76.44 list, $61.65 dealer.
AEM Part Number 35-2610, "PEMS Connector Kit 1010/1020", $76.44 list, $61.65 dealer.
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The AEM sounds pretty cool. It has features that are similar to the Hydra but it has a few advantages.
I like the integrated WB02 and the fact that it uses the cheaper Bosch sensor. I also like that there are far more people familiar with the AEM.
I will say that the software isn't particularly friendly. But really none of them are.
Do you guys know what kind of support AEM provides? What about for hacked versions like the 951 would be?
Pauer, how can the AEM do full sequential off of just our crank sensor? I thought our crank sensor didn't send enough info. How does the AEM compensate for it when the Hydra and others don't?
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I like the integrated WB02 and the fact that it uses the cheaper Bosch sensor. I also like that there are far more people familiar with the AEM.
I will say that the software isn't particularly friendly. But really none of them are.
Do you guys know what kind of support AEM provides? What about for hacked versions like the 951 would be?
Pauer, how can the AEM do full sequential off of just our crank sensor? I thought our crank sensor didn't send enough info. How does the AEM compensate for it when the Hydra and others don't?
Max
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But a cam trigger would help right?
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Does anyone know specifically what type of trigger (60-2?) wheel and sensor could be used for the single sensor option?? How does it know which cylinder is firing with only a crank trigger, I thought that was not possible through software?
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So it would require a trigger wheel like this one in order to use the AEM? Or is that just required to run full sequential?
I am pretty certain that if you want to retain the stock ignition with the Hydra, you can use the stock sensors, correct?
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I am pretty certain that if you want to retain the stock ignition with the Hydra, you can use the stock sensors, correct?
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Yeah, that is where alot of the Tec3 guys get their stuff from (lots of 911 guys and some 944 guys). It is high-quality stuff from what I have heard.
With the Hydra, I am pretty sure that it only needs that if you want to run full sequential. When running batch, I think it can use the factory crank trigger.
Why wouldn't the AEM work like that?
Max
With the Hydra, I am pretty sure that it only needs that if you want to run full sequential. When running batch, I think it can use the factory crank trigger.
Why wouldn't the AEM work like that?
Max
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A 60-2 setup will require a cam sensor if you want to run full sequential. With out the cam reference the ecu has no way to differentiate between TDC compression and TDC exhaust.
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I personally haven't had any forward progress because my car is under the knife at a body shop right now but there's actually been a lot discussed on the AEM forums recently:
http://forum.aempower.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=10160
B951S - What are you using for a crank trigger? A Clewett Engineering kit? Thoughts on what you'll use for a cam angle sensor? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
http://forum.aempower.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=10160
B951S - What are you using for a crank trigger? A Clewett Engineering kit? Thoughts on what you'll use for a cam angle sensor? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
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Have not actually bought the crank/cam trigger yet but have got a brand new 30-1010 box, map sensor, a good second hand 951 harness. Next I will be looking for a Civic harness and getting the cam/crank set up. You can either for clewett or get the complete crank / cam 60-2 set up from Chris White, 944 Enhancements (he does a nice set up for the TEC3).
I am in the same boat as you. My car is in the shop getting some rear end damage fixed so it will be while before I can make progress on this.
I am in the same boat as you. My car is in the shop getting some rear end damage fixed so it will be while before I can make progress on this.
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a good second hand 951 harness.
For my approach you're gonna need a dead DME and a dead KLR to scavange the connector from since it's the 944 female plug solder to the Civic harness. (or functional computers, but those are worth too much for something you're just gonna kill anyway.)
Flow chart of sorts:
[944 stock harness and connectors in your car (male)] ->
[DME/KLR connectors (female)] -> [Civic harness and connector (male)] ->
[EMS 30-1010 (female)]
The second (bold) row will be what you're building on a workbench outside the car. This will allow you to unplug and remove the EMS as if it was never there, with no permanent changed to your stock harness/equipment.
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I dont want to butcher my custom Link 2 harness and dont want to build a new harness from scratch, thats why I got hold of a good second hand one. I am working on a connection diagram for connecting to the 951 harness. It can be done numerous ways, but I am gonna use an old civic harness, cut off near the 3 plugs and splice into the DME/KLR end on the 951 harness for most functions and run wires for other stuff (like MAP, boost solenoid, coil drivers etc) Its really not that difficult if you have a 951 wiring diagram and the 1010 pin outs.
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It is a treat to pass this thread I have parted out an srt 4 neon sum time ago. In it was a AEM EMS im on vacation so dont know the model number but it is the plug and play one for that car i parted. I was going to convert it to work for a 951 just to see but ima try and trade it for a lowering tecart module for my cayenne. The one I have has lunch controls and nitrous controller also and can be tuned for a 10 cylinder engine. I was going to start a harness for it to be plug n play after vacation.