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Old 08-16-2004, 04:53 AM
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Is there a better alternative to a M030 (30mm and 19mm) sway bars from Porsche price-wise. Price I was given is $709.00.

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Old 08-16-2004, 04:56 AM
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That's enough money to buy new Weltmeister bars or buy the M030 here (Sunset Porsche) and ship them over to you. I'd look for another source.

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You should be able to get them from any Porsche dealer on the continent for €400 for both swaybars plus around €100 in mounting material.
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Get them used if you can

Or get yourself some polyutherene (sp?) bushings for the stock sway bards front and rear.

SimonK: Isn't that a Porsche Tractor as your av?
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SimonK: Isn't that a Porsche Tractor as your av?
No - it's a Porsche race car - don't now what period exactly - I've taken the photo in the Porsche museum.
Old 08-16-2004, 07:55 AM
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Or get yourself some polyutherene (sp?) bushings for the stock sway bards front and rear.
Hm, and this does what?
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"Dramatically enhances vehicle turn in characteristics and driver feedback. Eliminates wheel alignment changes due to flex"...........But DARN expensive...could be just slighter cheaper than the new M030 sway bar(s)(maybe $100 cheaper if you are lucky) but you get to keep the stock sway bar.

Paragon has a 'Racer's Edge' bushing kit (reaching over $1,000 for the WHOLE car). But then, you need to talk to someone who already has these and compared them to the M030 option........

The Polyutherane bushings are cheaper than Paragon's 'kit'.......

Sorry about the car, i saw a few porsche tractors in the 911 & Porsche World Magazine once....kind of interesting.
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Dude try speed-6.com, they have tghe delrin bushings and bars for like 560....


http://www.andale.com/stores/sf_item...5&parentCatId=
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You might want to try My Swiss at europarts-ect.com
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Why does everyone always get the 19? I'm about to get the 20 rear mo3o, is there something wrong with that one? Also, I'm going to leave the 25.5 in front... hoping to reduce some of that initial understeer, but hoping not to get to much oversteer after that. what do you guys think?
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Originally Posted by Eyal 951
Why does everyone always get the 19? I'm about to get the 20 rear mo3o, is there something wrong with that one? Also, I'm going to leave the 25.5 in front... hoping to reduce some of that initial understeer, but hoping not to get to much oversteer after that. what do you guys think?
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I think the reason is - keeping within the balance front versus rear. Also this is a Porsche spec for 968 CS. I think guys at Porsche should know best...
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Eyal, 25.5mm front with a 20mm rear is going to be mad. I had 27/20 on my previous car (a 944S) and it was a scary car to drive fast, couldn't even *think* of slightly easing off the gas mid-corner, or it'd go sideways...
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What sizes are the 968 MO3O sways?
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Originally Posted by Eyal 951
what do you guys think?
~Eyal
I think there is a lot more to what makes a car handle than the size of the swaybars. So answering your question would be speculating at best.

I run the 26.8mm front bar and 19mm rear bar(center hole), all with RE solid bushings. But I also have much uprated dampers and springs, camberplates, non-standard wheel widths/diameters/offsets/alignment and R-compound tires. Not to mention a welded cage. It tends to understeer a bit at the "limit", but that's how I want it right now. I can make it go the other way easily though
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[QUOTE=hosrom_951]"Dramatically enhances vehicle turn in characteristics and driver feedback. Eliminates wheel alignment changes due to flex"...........But DARN expensive...could be just slighter cheaper than the new M030 sway bar(s)(maybe $100 cheaper if you are lucky) but you get to keep the stock sway bar.

Paragon has a 'Racer's Edge' bushing kit (reaching over $1,000 for the WHOLE car). But then, you need to talk to someone who already has these and compared them to the M030 option........

The Polyutherane bushings are cheaper than Paragon's 'kit'.......


Simon,
You definately do not want the racers edge kit if you are going to drive the car on our roads. It would knock your teeth out on a trip round the South Circular and probably rip your suspension mounts to pieces too!!! I drove a Lotus Elise track car with billet bushing from Sevenoaks to Brands Hatch and when I got out I could hardly walk!!!!
Polyurathene Bushes are going to give a little more compliance but check out the "Shure" rating. This is the hardness of the material, you don't need it too hard. Polybush do a kit in UK I think it is the purple ones you want.
Sway Bars (Anti Roll Bars UK) are a slightly more difficult subject. The Club Sport 968 has a thinner bar due to the car being lighter and the roll centre changing. I think Kokeln do an adjustable roll bar maybe our US Cousins can tell you who else do them but they would be favourite as you can get it set up to suit YOUR driving style and should you decide to do a track day you have the facility to firm it up or soften it off depending on handling characteristics.
What shocks/springs are you using??


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Tom

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