rage2

I can tell you right now that there's no comparison lol. Those supras come from the factory with very beefy parts and ability to run to 9000rpm with ease. Our 951's are fragile in the drivetrain department and starts to break at anything past 7000rpm. It'd take a lot of upgrades on the 951 side to match the Supra.
I was on street tires (Kumho 712's... 265's in the rear), and only really had problems in 1st and 2nd, where I had to lower the boost. To lay a patch in 3rd gear, I'd have to slow down to 3000rpm, floor it, and wait till the turbo spools. If I'm already at 4500rpm after a shift, the car just rockets away HARD without much drama.

hosrom_951

But do not forget. Our cars are NOT made for straight line drag (see LOAD of previous posts on this) and yes rage2, our cars ARE fragile

Matt H

The Camaro I used to drive had 580HP with an LG383. No LSD and you could very easily lay rubber in 4th gear. Car was lent to a friend, bad mistake, rolled over and crushed. Engine now resides in speed boat, not mine.
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v944god

I'd like to know that as well. How much HP would it take to spin the tires at 60mph on a 951?

Mike1982

Well, that depends on the kind of tire, size of tire, and also mostly if there is lsd in the car. Temp plays in as well.

RPG951S

Yawn.

I'm amazed that this subject keeps coming up.
Wow. With enough money, you can have a really big number on a dyno chart. Yipee!
All that power is POINTLESS in a street car except for it's penile extending opportunities.

I'm sorry; by in large as a track car, the MKIV supra is a dog. It's woefully overweight and underbraked. Aftermarket support is limited to slapping on T70 turbos and banzai 'kombat' body kits with laughable aerodynamics.

My old 300ZXTT was a better track candidate, and even that was a losing battle. Power was never the problem. Everything else was the problem!

Silverbullet951

Are you finished with your poinltess rant?

1988952

Amen that, there is a general obsession on this board with peak HP, nobody ever asks about driveability with a useable powerband of 1500 rpm and a dynochart like lightning . Plus those 700-800 hp Supras,300zx's and unfortunatly some turbocharged Porsches with only bolt on parts and exsessive boostlevels will only survive on short dynoruns and occassional full throttle on the Hwy or from signal to signal but if you put the pedal to the metal like you can do it Europe with less speedrestriction for a couple of hours all of them will blow up, some sooner ,some later.
But back to the original question, even with a unlimited budget the 996tt still has 16 valves, 1.1l displacement and two extra cylinders on the 951.

Silverbullet951

True, I'm sure a 951 with 360 at the wheels weighing only 2300 lbs could keep up with lots of supras out there. A 951 with that power to weight would be making 313 hp per ton, as opposed to a 530 rear wheel horsepower supra weighing in at a conservative 3400 lbs would make 311 hp per ton. it just goes to show how much weight loss can do.

rage2

Yawn.

I'm amazed that people don't feel 500+whp isn't usable on the street. Believe me, running that kinda power on the street is a blast. Just gotta watch out for speed traps lol. Being able to pass at will on a single lane highway safely is probably the best use of such power. Oh, and merging onto highways, being able to easily match highway speeds on short merge lanes... I could go on and on.

Don't knock it till you've tried it!

RPG951S

Pointless rant my ***. I'm sorry that the truth burns you the wrong way, but idiots who think 500hp is 'cool' on the street are by-in-large the very ****tards that make owning a sportscar so god damn expensive.

Of course, mention that a track would be the 'approriate' place for a car that that, and you'll get some lame-*** excuses and shuffling of feet.

You've got a car which is capable of rediculous speeds in the very situation that it cannot possibly be used. What's the point? It's just torturing yourself!

My 300ZXTT had all the fixen', JWT kit and all. Not nearly 500hp, but enough to get into lots of trouble.
It's all fun and games until you get your first $1000 ticket. Then it's not so fun.

v944god

Raagi, what's it to you if they get a ticket? Their life, not yours.

IMO, having 500hp at tap is the best feeling in the world, just being able to punch that gas and having that power kick in. But at times you can't do much with it because of all the trouble it causes. At the end its all in fun.

Silverbullet951

Like I said, pointless rant.

I'm thinking if I upgrade my car at all, I'll first have to upgrade the clutch, because my stock clutch can't even handle the current power.

cantresjr

Power is like a drug, very addictive. do you need 700 hp NO!! do you want it sure wy not it is fun. not everything in life has to be practical there has to be a space for fun ****.

NZ951

There is a quite realistic function between HP and the number of cars you own I believe, or time. At 18 my 924 seemed fast, I got used to it, then got the 944 n/a that seemed fast, then I got used to it, I had not modded them at all, now I am on my second 951 and this one is slightly modded because I got used to the speed and it seemed slow. At the end of the latest mods "SIR 944" feels very quick at 18psi. I think its putting down 350 at 18psi (dyno in a month or so), I am sure in 6 months I will need a little more... its negatively exponential the curve, but its just an observation. To say we dont need high HP cars on the street is like saying we dont need Carrera GT's, or Enzo's or Aston Martins and so on, and that is wrong. As long as it stops as good as it goes it is fine...