Barn Find! 89 944 Turbo
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I'd actually let him know you've posted on here and let him read independent answers/questions. He might reevaluate his position and drop the asking price considerably. There's no way that's a 450hp motor. It might have a 968 6 speed in there which is coveted although I don't actually believe they are better than a well sorted stock turbo 5 speed. Work and parts are way cheaper in the US but still looks to be at least $20k in repairing that car and more to update some of the ancient tech which it would invariably have.
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Gage (01-17-2022)
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take your 10 to 20 k and buy a running non rusty example. you can find a good one in that price range. buy from an enthusiast a car you can enjoy immediately. these are great cars and going up in price. get em while you can!
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GarageYears (01-17-2022)
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The KMR yellow 968 has a John Milledge engine in it.
KMR hired him to build the engine.
It belongs to Soloracer
I’ve worked on it and it’s an awesome car.
Be nice if the 89 had a JMR engine.
To the Op is there any reason you haven’t run the VIN number to find history?
KMR hired him to build the engine.
It belongs to Soloracer
I’ve worked on it and it’s an awesome car.
Be nice if the 89 had a JMR engine.
To the Op is there any reason you haven’t run the VIN number to find history?
Not sure what shop in Chicago would have built a 450hp motor in the 90's.
Wisconsin car - possibly (more likely?) a Kelly Moss build. I wouldn't be surprised how much money could be spent there on a 944/951 build in the 90's. I recall a couple hopped up KMR builds written up in Excellence probably 25 years ago.
If you are capable of doing all the needed work yourself, and have the time, it might be worth considering going after it if the right price. If you have to pay a shop for much of the work - walk away, it will be way too much $$ to get it in reliable running condition.
Wisconsin car - possibly (more likely?) a Kelly Moss build. I wouldn't be surprised how much money could be spent there on a 944/951 build in the 90's. I recall a couple hopped up KMR builds written up in Excellence probably 25 years ago.
If you are capable of doing all the needed work yourself, and have the time, it might be worth considering going after it if the right price. If you have to pay a shop for much of the work - walk away, it will be way too much $$ to get it in reliable running condition.
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enjoyed the experience so much, I’ve purchased a complete S2 engine and playing with the idea of building a 3.0 16.v engine.
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Your offer is likely considerably more than the scrap value, and anything beyond that is a bonus. If he truly cared about the car, why the hell is it such a mess?
As I said previously, my car is all original (so easier to fix) and sat in an air conditioned/heated storage space for seven years, while the estate of the decreased owner was resolved - and THEN still cost the dealership that sold me the car $7K at a motorsports specialist to bring it back to running/saleable condition (I have that receipt). But not EVERYTHING was taken care of - but it is a full two page receipt of a lot of things (belts, water pump, all the rubber hoses, fuel pump/filter, brakes/brake hoses and the clutch slave/master cylinder).
Since receiving the car I have done shocks, engine mounts, fuel rail and shifter linkage myself - so another $2K-ish.
So, it took almost $10K for a low mileage (mine had 45K miles on it when I purchased it 9 month past) stock car, and bear in mind the interior and exterior are near perfect (so no bodywork or interior expenses).
I hate to see a 951 in such an unloved condition, but it's infuriating if the current owner doesn't get real and understand all he has now is scrap metal, unless he wants to spend (probably) $15K-20K to bring this car back to running condition.
Unless he's really odd, a frank discussion breaking down the costs you might be looking at should be all that's needed to get him to come down to a fair price.
Give it a go. Unless of course you've been put off yourself?
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333pg333 (01-18-2022)
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Yeah I think the seller will understand your not low balling him. The car just needs a lot of attention.
I think your the one taking the massive risk. The car took a violent hit to bend the rim like that. You might find a cracked control arm or other issues. The front bumpers is falling off.
The car reminds me of this guys airplane purchase.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aVvHYTtHDrc
I think your the one taking the massive risk. The car took a violent hit to bend the rim like that. You might find a cracked control arm or other issues. The front bumpers is falling off.
The car reminds me of this guys airplane purchase.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aVvHYTtHDrc
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Ever seen that show “hoarders” amazing what people think has value.. in a situation like this the seller thinks he has gold and the reality is the car will sit and rot until the owner passes away, then the family comes along and auctions it off because they dont give a crap. The only ones who benefit from this type of situation are the mice.. they have the benefit of escaping eviction..
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Very unfortunate seeing a car like that so poorly looked after
Not worth much in the condition it’s in.
Definitely fixable with the right person and appropriate sale price.
Not worth much in the condition it’s in.
Definitely fixable with the right person and appropriate sale price.
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Chapman951 (01-18-2022)