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I don't currently have access to build sticker to verify if code 030 is there. Assuming it's not does anyone know if the suspension would then be the same as any 86-88 non S? Was code 474 available on the 89 Turbo?
I don't currently have access to build sticker to verify if code 030 is there. Assuming it's not does anyone know if the suspension would then be the same as any 86-88 non S? Was code 474 available on the 89 Turbo?
If it’s a US car then it will definitely have M030 suspension. Afaik the last year for M474 was 1988.
Are you trying to find out if you car ahs M030 on it? Brake Calipers are an easy check. But for sure if it has the front spring height adjustable Koni struts it will M030. Could someone swap in M030 suspension, yes buts it a lot of parts and money.
I understand what you are saying on how to verify option "M030". What I'm trying to find out is if the vehicle does not have the "M030" option what suspension and front brakes were standard on 89 Turbo's.
Like I posted Wikipedia states only the 88 Turbo S "M030" came standard and the 89 "M030" was an option.
I understand what you are saying on how to verify option "M030". What I'm trying to find out is if the vehicle does not have the "M030" option what suspension and front brakes were standard on 89 Turbo's.
Like I posted Wikipedia states only the 88 Turbo S "M030" came standard and the 89 "M030" was an option.
And you believe Wikipedia? Per Porsche "'89 Information Technick," WKD 495 321, page 4-01, "Running gear and brakes on the 1989 944 Turbo correspond with the running gear and brakes of the 944 Turbo S already produced in the 1988 model year." It goes on to list all the items... Konis, harder rubber mounts, springs & valving, adjustable spring retainers, modified steering knuckles, brake calipers and discs, stabilizers and torsion bars. I'd go out and look at my '89 but am too lazy to remove the car cover right now :-) I do recall the option list includes 030. In the USA all 1989 turbos had M030 standard.
The strut on the left is the M030.
Easily identifiable by the bare aluminum threaded collar over the strut body (just to the left of #22) and the adjustable lower spring perch and lock nut, also in bare aluminum finish.
All of the aftermarket adjustable setups I've seen have a colored aluminum finish to them.
Edit: Sounds like you understand this point.
Here's a good link describing the various brake and suspension setups. http://www.944s2.com/
According to Wikipedia 1989 Turbo did not come standard with "M030" and Club Sport Wheels. They were optional. 1988 Turbo "S" came standard with both.
@RonD. Wikipedia is wrong, all US 1989 951’s came from the factory with M030 and CS wheels. They were an identical spec to the 1988 Turbo S.
Also, just for clarity, M030 is a suspension package and has nothing to do with the brakes even though some folk refer to the bigger brakes on the Turbo S as M030 brakes they are not.
Also, just for clarity, M030 is a suspension package and has nothing to do with the brakes even though some folk refer to the bigger brakes on the Turbo S as M030 brakes they are not.
Is it possible to have an M030 suspension package from the factory without the 928 Bigger brakes? I would think that the radial brake mount knuckles on the M030 package would not accept the axial type of caliper found on non M030 cars?
Is it possible to have an M030 suspension package from the factory without the 928 Bigger brakes? I would think that the radial brake mount knuckles on the M030 package would not accept the axial type of caliper found on non M030 cars?
Mike G.
Yes, M030 doesn’t require the radial spindles, they just use the regular late offset spindles. M030 suspension was an option before the Turbo S and continued on the RoW turbo cars with or without the bigger brakes up to 1991.
I believe that the radial big brakes were initially part of the M758 option which was for the Silver Rose cars. Then the M758 option code was dropped for all other Turbo S cars that were not Silver Rose and replaced by a country code. That’s why US and RoW 951 cars are different and specs vary. Really the Turbo S spec cars on the whole were a mixed bag and not really a “world” car, they sort of messed with the specs depending on the country of delivery.
Thank you all for clarification. I may? be buying an 89 Turbo Alpine White over Black 87k, Stock turbo, full 3" into 4" exhaust, Tial 46, LR Chips, 52 lb. injectors, Turbo Smart controller and gauge, AFR WB, Adj. FPR, Fuel rail press. gauge, LR Trans mount, LR short shift, Spec Stage 2+ with Light weight flywheel, nose vent and Bucket lights, Stock wheels (not pretty) Comes with all original stock parts except WG. Have only seen pics, body looks straight and good interior.
[QUOTE=MAGK944;17334995Also, just for clarity, M030 is a suspension package and has nothing to do with the brakes even though some folk refer to the bigger brakes on the Turbo S as M030 brakes they are not.[/QUOTE]
Well, I don't think that's true, at least for late model cars. The 1989-1991 PET shows the steering knuckle, front wheel hub, brake disc and caliper with 36/44 pistons are option M030.
Well, I don't think that's true, at least for late model cars. The 1989-1991 PET shows the steering knuckle, front wheel hub, brake disc and caliper with 36/44 pistons are option M030.
The “M030” listed beside those items meant they were only available with the M030 suspension option on those late cars, which is correct. Doesn’t mean the hub, spindle or caliper are part of the M030 option, they aren’t.
The “M030” listed beside those items meant they were only available with the M030 suspension option on those late cars, which is correct. Doesn’t mean the hub, spindle or caliper are part of the M030 option, they aren’t.
Nope, I believe you have it backwards. Any item listed in the PET with M030 means that was part of the package. If someone happens to own say a 1990 944 S2 with M030 and they give their VIN to the dealer and tell them they want a new front caliper, what do you think they will get? They will get the 928 S4 type big caliper because that's what came on their car.
Please provide Porsche literature that says the big brakes, spindles, etc. were not part of the M030 package. M030 included a lot of stuff such as different rubber in the caster mounts, upper strut mount, lower control arm, yadda, yadda, yadda. I have a Porsche 1990 944 S2 sales brochure that lists optional equipment; one of them is the "Sport Chassis (same as '89 Turbo)" and as we all know the '89 turbo came with M030 and the big brakes.
03-31-2021, 04:12 AM
1989 Turbo Suspension
